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Traffic fines to your inbox?

2013-03-04 09:36

CAPE TOWN -  Draft legislation could pave the way for provinces to e-mail traffic penalties to vehicle owners.

Amendments to the Law on the Administrative Adjudication of Road Traffic (Aarto) published in the Government Gazette in February 2013 could result in fines being emailed.

Beeld newspaper reported that the introduction of Aarto, which is currently enforced in Johannesburg and Pretoria, had repeatedly been postponed in other parts of the country due to administrative logistics.

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Some 13 years after it was proposed, the Aarto penalty points system has yet to be enforced, largely because of legal wrangling and criticism of the legislation.

According to the newspaper, Johannesburg metro police had been quoted as saying it had no budget to send notices by registered mail - the only way to serve a notice of prosecution without human delivery.

The proposed amendments suggested that the state was trying to change the original law to enable e-mail notifications of fines.

Members of the public can e-mail their comments before March 21, to John Makgatho on Ngwako Thoka.

Wheels24 says: Our biggest concern would be the prevalance of phishing scams and email filters. What if your account marks a traffic fine as "spam"? The state's email address would become known as an originator of spam messages and its emails would automatically be deleted or moved to a specific folder.

Part of the final notice via snailmail is to prove via registered mail that the fine was delivered. The addressee has to sign for it and you're required to provide proof of address. If your traffic infringement remains unopened in your inbox, could the state challenge your receipt of the fine?


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Comments
  • Martin Wing - 2013-03-04 09:57

    Great idea for some, but the scamming and phishing with this system would be massive. A lot of people are oblivious to such attempts.

      Alan Gernet - 2013-03-04 10:43

      never mind that - we all know how many taxi drivers etc. have access to emails. Really - these okes should spend a loooong time thinking before they open their mouths so shoot off 'good ideas'.

      heathwaymaster - 2013-03-04 15:38

      Anyone giving the metro police their e-mail address, needs his head read. It is not a requirement of the law that every citizen should own a computer and have an e-mail address.

  • Blackpoison - 2013-03-04 10:04

    Yip, email your comments so that they can get hold of your email address.

  • Wike Mood - 2013-03-04 10:13

    sorry,did not get your mail.

      colin.ashby.35 - 2013-03-04 16:53

      i dont have email or internet access

  • David Questioner - 2013-03-04 10:16

    They can have my Hotmail address, which I never use. How do they prove I received the fine?

      Patrick Jimu - 2013-03-04 11:10

      Apparently the law states that if they can prove they have sent it to you, then there is no need to prove it was delivered to you. I stand to be corrected but i believe thats what is legally binding just like if you dont pay your Edgars account, all they need is prove that they sent you the statement, never mind you recieved it or not.

      Joe Muhr - 2013-03-04 12:38

      Patrick if that is the case then why the current need to send it by registered mail in the first place?

      Fussed Anderson - 2013-03-04 12:58

      Well then I posted the cash to you so you must have recieved it. Case closed.

      David Questioner - 2013-03-04 13:39

      Hmmm.... Edgars account is backed by signed till slip and an agreement. Not so with fines.

  • Zelda Bothma Jacobs - 2013-03-04 10:19

    and what about those who do not have email like taxi drivers ?

      Freddie Miller - 2013-03-04 10:32

      They don't pay anyway. This shows that the officials are not interested in pursuing them, they prefer soft targets, like taxpayers.

  • Tony Bakkie - 2013-03-04 10:25

    Register the e mail as spam and get them bounced.

  • Julia Griffiths - 2013-03-04 10:28

    Unfortunately email addresses change as do people & jobs despite the system being able to confirm delivery. Therefore non-delivery is a fact which can be claimed despite the changes in the law. In certain cases people may not have email addresses or even internet access.

  • coert.welman - 2013-03-04 10:31

    No budget for registered mail? Nonsense! If they sent out all fines via registered mail from day one as they are supposed to by law, they would have a much higher payment rate of fines. Simple really.

      Alan Gernet - 2013-03-04 10:46

      sheeesh - I had an incident of a R500 fine for supposedly not coming to a full stop at a stopstreet. I think that I did, but if that is not a money making scam I dont know what is! And funnily enough, since that day, I have NEVER ONCE seen a single Ekurhuleni Metro Cop car (or Police vehicle) come to a full stop at a stop street unless there has been another vehicle with right of way.

      Jarques Johnstone-Cloete - 2013-03-04 12:55

      I Agree: No budget for mail??? Then where the hell does all the money for the paid fines go?? Each year people pay hundreds of millions in fines. So where the heck does the money go? They are supposed to funnel the money from the fines into stuff like this but somehow the money gets 'funneled' into someones pockets..

  • peter.woods.142 - 2013-03-04 10:41

    This is only the first stage, next you fines will be automatically deducted from your bank account. Then the fun is going to start.

      Mike Nolan - 2013-03-04 12:04

      I'll just change my bank details, close my account, change banks etc.... hahahahaha what a joke

  • Dexter Tangocci - 2013-03-04 10:51

    I don't pay fines and never will. What a money making scam.

      vaughan.lund - 2013-03-04 13:43

      Agreed.

  • BLUESILVER2012 - 2013-03-04 11:03

    Will never work, anything to do with cyber space is fluid unlike a physically home address so this "scheme" will be pushed by some government official so that they can sell the software like Shabir Shaik did with the credit card licence system and the kick backs will be HUGE. NO doubt their system will be hacked by some piss'd off hacker so again, this is all about someone in government wanting to make a quick buck.

  • Mike Nolan - 2013-03-04 12:03

    I'll email the payment back to them :D

  • Albert Lategan - 2013-03-04 12:33

    Although e-mail has improved a lot over years with improved protocols, a lot of the networking that goes into e-mail is still, believe it or not, a "best effort" process, with no guaranteed delivery. I cannot see this method of delivery being legally acceptable.

  • Joe Muhr - 2013-03-04 12:40

    Is this being done anywhere else in the world?

      freek.vn - 2013-03-04 13:01

      No, of course not. South Africa is going to be the first country in the world to do this. Another FIRST for the ANC!

  • revino - 2013-03-04 13:01

    Most people have one registered physical and postal address but have various email accounts ...work, social , private etc and most of us just stop using an account without deactivating it. Is an email considered delivered if your work address as changed or that your primary address is no longer active. Maybe the alternative is to sy ..."i dont have an email address"

  • Sas Kloppers - 2013-03-04 13:08

    The solution is simple. The MOMENT a traffic fine is mailed to me and I become aware of this I'll change my mail address. I will however pay that fine provided that is the legal and correct thing to do.

  • Stewart Wood - 2013-03-04 13:36

    This is totally unacceptable, as proof of delivery is required - that is why the law presently requires sending by registered mail. Also people change email addresses with ease and not infrequently. In addition servers do sometimes bounce mails back to sender with messages such as 'User not known' and later another email sent to that same address will get through. There are far too many variables and problems inherent in email for this to be acceptable.

  • chris.stuart.332 - 2013-03-04 14:04

    Sure, reminds me to go and check if the email address GoAndFYourselfs@gmail.com is still avaiable..

  • Thandeka Husstla - 2013-03-04 15:09

    bayahlanya laba.

  • Makaveli - 2013-03-05 17:32

    I tnk in this day and age it will be very simple to implement this and make it law. The government can propose that each license holder is automatically allocated an email adress that is hosted by the traffic department servers. Same thing as gmail or Nokia mail, vodamail etc. but owned by the traffic department. U do not need to have Internet access, they could put up accessible points where you can log on at public places like the malls and the onus will be on you to check and log in regularly.

      Don Odendaal - 2013-05-21 05:03

      Really Makaveli do you think taxi drivers (or anyone for that matter )is going to go out of their way to go to a shopping mall etc. to log on to check for fines seriously not going to happen. Would you ?

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