@AldoTeo2/24/2009 11:44 AM : Spot on. Just like the harley davidson T-shirt: "If I have to explain, you won't understand". One has to shake one's head at the mindless number-crunchers who wouldn't know an Egyptian sheet from an Egyptian goose. |
I love this car. Wish I could afford it! At least it's cheaper than a Mini....
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for Paris Hilton wannabes ONLY! |
If you don't like the car, don't buy it - it is that simple. If one has the cash (HP is not cash) and want something refreshing & different go for it. Perk of these retro wheels is that they won't bring out a new model next year. Can you tell the difference between the old and new MINI's? If you want sensible and resale, buy a Yaris. Oh, new model probably out shortly. |
You can buy a POLO GTI, Opel Corsa OPC, and a few more hot hatches with less that 600km on the clock for less than the price they want for this car, you must be bum to buy this car or to much money. |
It's a cool car for for people with more cash than brains. What will happen to your warranty, servicing, re-sale value etc when fiat does a runner from SA. It's coming. |
Mate jst bought a Kia Sorento used with 70k for same cash. Or better yet get a real hot hatch Focus ST with 40k on it or maybe just maybe get a Suzuki Swift and SV bike for the weekends for just a little more new out the box. Its your money its your pick. I will not be buying Fiat again for some time after the two Strada's I have had. Pity really cause I love my iveco powered Ducato van. |
I saw post man pat in one of these last week. Both him and his cat looked very happy- so it must be good. |
Who will possibly buy this thing???? |
Can't wait for the cabriolet version to arrive in SA. The car just needs a bit more Ferrari in it. Treat yourself, you won't be sorry |
@Anon 15:20, Yes, a great many cars share common platforms these days. And for the same money I would say that the Sedici is actually a Suzuki SX4. We the end user gain by lower prices and more features because of lower manufacturing costs. Now you tell me, for the same money, choose between a 500 and a SX4? Dude, that is a no brainer! In fact, just about everything in the same price bracket represents better value for money than this car. |
@Phelan. SX4 is a real car you say? SX4 is actually a Fiat Sedici! |
@Aldo Teo, Yes.. I dislike the Mini almost as much as I do this 500. For the identical reason. Hundreds of hours spent bent double over the open engine compartment trying to get the thing reliable. Both cars originals where horrible. And don't even get me started on the Beetle! Why anybody would want to remind themselves of the pain associated with owning these cheap and nasty cars is totally beyond me. Like the man said (Anon 13:49), rather get a real car and pay the balance off on your bond!! |
One must be crazy to spend so much on a little car. What a waste, get a.n other make little car, and pay the ballance off your bond. |
Awesome car. Its nippy, great chassis and beautifull styling. My next car will be the Abarth no matter what the price. |
Its just an over-priced machine. Not for the masses.
Also, it is the opposite of a loss-leader for FIAT. |
What about tall people? South Africans cannot drive with their heads between their knees. |
@ Phelan, FYI i was referring to the car as a design icon. there's no questioning the original reason for FIAT producing the car in the 1st place! it was a cheap form of transportation in a time of economic turmoil in Europe. so no wonder it was unreliable! but it became an icon of the time regardless of its problems, because it looked great for such a cheap car! nowadays you you unfortunately pay for such historical icons...i mean, seriously, are you telling me the mini was such a fantastic and sought after car when 1st produced? no, it was a necessity car too...were you complaining when BMW decided to remake it as a modern marque car at such a heafty price? i doubt it. the fact remains...its a style icon of a bygone era. and many would pay handsomely to have a modern piece of that history. so no blame to FIAT for helping those live their dream. i like it. |
Beautiful! But I am still trying to find an original 'Topolino'. If anyone knows of one for sale, PLEASE let me know! |
Just an Italian version of the Nissan Micra coming at a ridiculous price. |
Why is the mini a succes? Becuase it is good looking, handles great and as quick as most hot hatches and a tad expensive. The 500 is not quick, don't know about the handeling, looks good and expensive! Get it??? |
BELLISSIMA,=BIUTIFULL I LIKE TO GET ONE SOON.THE OLD VERSION WAS MY FIRST CAR IN 1978.....I LOVE IT.... |
Doesn't matter how nice the car is - customers still have to deal with Fiat SA's customer care (!) department and those things Fiat calls "Dealers". And not to forget about that other thing "Service". Cannot describel how much I loathe them. |
Will any straight men drive this car? |
I hope Fiat SA brings the Abarth version here...at a reasonable price. |
I agree with Anon 2/24/2009 9:35 AM , SA are mini lovers. Well said Eugene and even better said J van Rensburg. AT AldoTeo, we know its a classic, but so is the beetle but look what happend there. I would love to own one especially the abarth but at the price its asking its def not on my choice list. Mayb ill pick one up for second hand at a much cheaper price....... |
Would really like one in my garage, especially the ABARTH. BUT THE PRICE!!!! Can by alot more for alot less. |
dis baie geld vir 'n klomp k!!!! |
Design is eye catching. One can argue as one wishes about the value, but its has been a huge sales success for them: they are raising production capacity to R200 000 units if memory serves me correctly. |
@ Anon 12:49. When you can get more care(Yes bigger and better specced) for R40 000 less, would that make a whole lot of sense. More comfort and still with some degree of style at R40 000 cheaper, its a no brainer.Style can cost more, look at the Smaller C2, its more expensive than the C3 and much better looking. But that extra style does not cost R40 000, which in this price range is a large part of the total price. |
@Aldo Teo FYI, I have owned two Fiat 500's and by necessity not by choice let me tell you!!! By listening to you rave about the old 500 I can only guess that you know very little about these cars. They where quite horrible little cars to drive and terribly unreliable. Why Fiat would even consider re living that disaster is quite beyond me. And at R180k??? Bugger that! As already stated the Swift or even the Daihatsu Sirion are way better cars for way less money!! Add a couple of rand and buy an Suzuki SX4! At least then you will drive a real car! |
@ Notso. The scary thing is that this does not compete with the Fiesta, it is not in the same segment. The 500 is much smaller and it has the same platform as the much smaller and cheaper Ford KA. |
At last a Wheels24 test that was not written by a 2 year old. Well done. Love the car too. |
I also feel kinda indifferent about this car. Sure, the 500 has a heritage even if we are oblivious to it, but it just somehow doesn't do it for me (different strokes I guess)
They featured the Arbarth version of this on Top Gear recently and it looked like loads of fun, but if I was buying a car in this segment I reckon the new Fiesta will get my money. |
If you understand design symmetry you'll know why this works. Expensive, but so are most things of unique design. If you have the money and would like a stand-alone car for city motoring, this would be a fun ownership proposition. |
AldoTeo:
Yeah, unfortunately Flavio Briatore agrees with you about all italian things being pretty! |
This car is not in the class of the swift its suppose to compete against cars like Mini and the VW Beetle an other retro cars. Look how well the mini sells. That is what Fiat tried with this car. Pity people in SA buy cars with there brains too often and not with the heart. If someone like the looks etc why not buy it. Why must it always come down to Price and practicality and performance. |
I like the novelty of the car, I spend a lot of time in the traffic and I have decided not to spend all my money on another standard "executive" car. But the price of this just doesn't justify what you are getting... It is extremely expensive to be nostalgic.
IN the end everyone will say $$$ for a Fiat. |
I'd rather walk around with grandma's classic red gramophone than buy this car, about 'Anonymous User 2/24/2009 10:57 AM' comment about a cool fridge, your buddies will like something cool in the fridge...ciao |
Fiat designers must go to designing school, or take lectures from Audi, this is rubbish. |
This is not as practical as some others that cost less but this was mentioned in the end of the article. It does have a lot of the design features that make the Micra the second ugliest car on the road (second only to the Fiat Multipla) but I think the 500 does it much better. I really like this little car. Price unfortunately is ridiculous, just like the Mini. But give it a year or two and you may be able to get a second hand one for a fair price |
You people are missing the point of this car...its a classic!if you had any inkling of historical knowledge of FIAT and Italian classics, this car would be blowing you away right now...but you dont, so its not going to please you in the slightest...kind of like getting left out of a private joke i think...you should feel ashamed for criticising a car when you've completely missed the point of it. oh and Nithen...being italian does almost guaranty good looks ;)
...almost. |
This is a car for cute girls with rich daddy's, or a suger daddy |
I'll rather buy a fridge then this car, my fridge will be much cooler! |
the car looks better in real life and if you'd only only use it for city driving, i'd say consider it. but the price is a bit steep though |
I agree with Eugene. Too expensive. I can get more for my money from Honda (Jazz). And then I'll be able to find a buyer for my car 3 year down the line. |
Why is this so special?? I don't understand.
Suzi swift with 17" wheels for me. Tend to agree looks like a micra, swift much better looking |
and the new word for today is: disarmingly
Cool car though, but not R150 000 plus cool |
I honestly dont see whats so grand about this car or its styling. Looks like a Micra to me...fugly. There are many cars that look much better, just cause its Italian, doesnt automatically make it good looking. |
Fiat has too many models on the local market that don't sell, and the 500 is one of them. It's time they followed Peugeot's example and cut out the dead wood. When that happens, the 500 will be the first to go. There is no market for a car like this in South Africa. |
Best looking city runabout ever. |
Noddy phoned. HE wants his car back. |
And now it is time for Renualt to redo the Renault 5!!!! |