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Toyota takes on critics

2010-03-09 07:28

Author: Rob Woollard

 

Crisis-hit Toyota hit back once again Monday at allegations that the electronics in its vehicles caused the problems with sudden acceleration which led to the recall of millions of vehicles.

The Japanese automaker staged a technical demonstration in which it tore apart as "unrealistic" and "contrived" a study by a vocal critic showing that crossed wires could send a false signal that would cause Toyota cars to speed out of control.

David Gilbert, a professor of automotive technology at Southern Illinois University. told a US congressional investigation last month that affected Toyota and Lexus vehicles may have an electronics design flaw.

Created fault

The carmaker dismissed his findings, saying he had re-engineered and rewired the signals from the accelerator pedal in order to create the flaw rather than analyzing "real world" evidence.

"If an electrical system is re-engineered and rewired it's not surprising that subsequent testing of the system may cause unrealistic results," Toyota spokesman Mike Michaels told reporters.

"Speculation is easy. Science takes a lot more effort."

Engineers from the consulting firm Exponent - which Toyota has hired to analyze its systems for potential faults - demonstrated how the process would create a similar result in vehicles made by General Motors, Honda, Ford, Chrysler and BMW.

"This in no way indicates a defect with this vehicle," Matthew Schwall, a managing engineer with Exponent, said as he showed how the altered circuits could send false signals.

"The only reason the engine accelerated is because we followed Mr. Gilbert's method and rewired it to do that."

The only way the fault could be created, they explained, was if the protective coverings on the wires were eroded and a specific electrical charge was created as two non-adjacent wires connected.

Not only is it highly unlikely in the real world, but it would also leave behind obvious physical evidence which has not been detected in any of the problem vehicles, the engineers said.

"You cannot rewire a circuit and expect it to behave as it was originally designed," said Chris Gerdes a mechanical engineering professor who is the head of Stanford University's Center for Automotive Research and attended the briefing at the automaker's US headquarters near Los Angeles.

Gilbert's report to congress "draws conclusions about the Toyota circuit based on tests on a different circuit" and contains "no evidence of any real world circuit malfunction," he said.

Incomplete repairs

Two US lawmakers on a committee looking into the Japanese auto giant's woes asked the company Friday for documents backing up its position that electronic defects were not to blame for acceleration problems.

Toyota's demonstration was a "convincing rebuttal" which effectively proved that an electronic hardware problem is not likely at the root of the problem, said Bill Visnic, a senior editor at the automotive website Edmunds.com.

US regulators said last week that they had received more than 60 complaints from Toyota owners reporting sudden unintended acceleration despite having their recalled vehicle repaired by a Toyota dealer.

Toyota is in the process of investigating those complaints and has found that some of the incidents were a result of incomplete repairs, Michaels told reporters.

"We remain confident that if the modifications to the vehicle are deployed and done properly that they are effective," he said.

Toyota, which overtook General Motors in 2008 to become world number one automaker, has seen its reputation tarnished by a litany of complaints ranging from unintended acceleration to brake failure and steering problems.

The Japanese auto giant's president, Akio Toyoda, met Monday with Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama, who urged the founding company scion to strive to restore confidence in its brand.


 
Fortuner Family Killer
3/18/2010 6:18 PM
Watch Carte Blance soon for the Fortuner "gatswaai" special...many many many Fortuners pre 2008 were written off due to inherent handling problems. Carte Blance is investigating big time and will take them down very very soon. Watch the space people.
melkbos
3/12/2010 8:12 AM
There is a lot more that TOYOTA is hiding since early 2004 up to now.They will ignore it and their buying public will follow blindly, so the shareholders will smile. Everything Keeps Going MONEY right.
@AnTiyota
3/10/2010 10:21 AM
You must have been getting off on Toyota's misfortunes? tsk tsk... Good luck selling Renault/Tata/Peugeot/GWM.
Shaun - Cape Town
3/10/2010 7:29 AM
....well when the Americans had a though time last year, the Japanese automaker (Toyota) was selling soon to be recalled products, which is surfacing now. I think the lesson to be learned here, is that the companies should focus less on how fast they roll out these products (mass production) and to take the time and first test their products. - CHeers
AP
3/9/2010 3:53 PM
Toyota may have let problems creep into their manufacturing recently, but there's still a lot of goodwill around the world for the Company. Worldwide, consumers won't easily forget the long dominance that Toyota has in terms of quality, despite this last recall. Everyone has their highs and lows. But what some American media is clearly trying to do in the USA over this matter . . . now that's a real low.
Richard
3/9/2010 2:23 PM
General Motors dont like being 2nd and will do anything to discredit their opposition,OK they may be a fault but I think it has been blown all out of proportion
Tommy
3/9/2010 1:42 PM
The American automakers are having a field day it seems at the expense of the Japanese. Not that American auto brands have ever been known for their quality you understand.
AnTiyota
3/9/2010 1:27 PM
The damage is done. Can't help but think of the saying, "The Bigger they are, the Harder they fall". HA, ha!!
TREV
3/9/2010 12:05 PM
It would seem that this is the perfect timing for the American Big 3 to hurt Toyota...and win back sales...but what is new....all looks well organised and Toyota can see the onslaught..pity the Americans aren't as patriotic as they make out to be in their movies,NEVER LEAVE A MAN BEHIND bull...they have to be fed this crap to buy MADE IN THE USA again...LMAO..
Greg
3/9/2010 11:57 AM
Huh? How can you modify a unit on the car and then demonstrate that it has a "flaw"
Peter Gamble
3/9/2010 10:20 AM
Looks more and more like a "Tucker" is being pulled on Toyota!

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