Oi, what con job is VW trying to pull here? I agree with LJE - EX VW sycophant"... VW basically took the previous generation Polo (thereby saving on any considerable development costs), stuck on a slightly revised nose,light clusters and a new steering wheel and gave it a new name and stripped comfort features and now I have to pay twice as much as I would for a VW CITI? I don't think you can classify this car as the VW CITI replacment. B.T.W. I drive a 2004 VW Polo 1.6 Classic Comfortline, fullhouse....so that means I have the new VIVO driving experience at half the price and twice the specs...aircon, airbags, abs etc etc etc... |
I do agree with the I20 it's a very nice car but the Polo Vivo also looks very nice but I do not like the new steering wheel. Why is everything so expensive with V\W I really do not understand. Stick with Korean cars that market is going to blow are imagination (if you know what I mean) |
Well may I suggest a Hyndai i20 there is more there for your buck plust a/c is standard.
But who am I kidding you will see them everywhwere you go. |
Oh dear i helped a customer the other day who had a 1.4 polo h/back he owed 136000 because he added a few extras the best i could get in january was 88000 and now with this new viva out it is worth 65000..... so anyone out there wondering what the polo is worth..............eish!!!!! |
Anyone seen any plans to have a bakkie version to replace the old caddy? Will be good competion for the Utility. |
Vivo is a breath of fresh air to people like myself who can't afford cars costing more than R150 000. GO VW!!!!!!!!!! |
@ Tom - it is called inflation... |
I like it. At last I have a replacement for my 1985 Mk1 Jetta/Fox in the 1.6 Vovo sedan. But eeeish at R142 000 when my 1985 VW Jetta Gl 1.6 out of the box cost R9 000. Can some one please tell me where on earth is the R133 000's worth of extra or added value in the new VW Vivo 1.6 sedan. Difficult to comprehend that a car in some ways similar to the Mk.1 Jetta/Fox is now R142 000. Where is the added value?? |
I like the Polo Vivo more than I thought I would, and it proves that the previous Polo was competitive throughout its model life. Three cheers to VWSA for including a sedan; this will become very popular. Just a pity that air conditioning and a service plan are expensive extras. |
Thats always the problem when a new model of VW comes out, you always get these people that run it down. Stop this madness, the vivo is a great car and now everybody can afford a new vw, vw can be proud of this new model its value for money. I just wonder what every body going to say when the Amarok arrives they will compaire it to the hi-lux. Lets enjoy the new vivo. VIVA VW VIVA |
JP, Thanks man. Nice to know.
How about some pics of the 2dr? |
Well said JJ. |
@Mr T
Are you on crack? The closest toyota is the T1 at R127k+ no aircon jack -all and you come up with this o so smart comment its not a toyota. Im neither pro VW or Anti Toyota but face the facts here.
Stop hating, the previous POLO was a great car and now its the replacement entry level car.....it wasnt mind-blowing but that was never the intension.....
There will always be the KIA PICANTO lovers etc etc but if you prefer plastic air hole for a car then its for you else buy a VIVO or Sandero......those seem like the JUST options for now in that class...
Another thing price is so important....go calculate something see the difference 9k makes on your monthly payment on a 101k car....sweet nothing.....so keep crying at the end of the month its how much you left with in your pocket that counts...and the point for those that miss it is that if you want A/C or any other features you now have a choice and if you choose to you can have it and what ends up being a miniscule amount out your pocket a month......!!!!!!!!! |
@ Alwyn - The Polo's gearbox is nothing like the Citi's. Worlds apart! |
NO COMMENT |
If the gearbox is anything like my citi's then I'll give it a miss. Let's be realistic though, what else do you buy new for 101k? You could buy a used car with ABS,PS,AC,CL,etc
if you don't mind buying used I suppose |
Hello Vivo.
Welcome to the VW family. Like all the other family members, you will great. Dont worry, there will always be a number of people critisising a VW.
The best new (any product i.e. Renault, Ford, Kia, etc) is a pre-owned VW. |
@KB Thanks for the link. Really cool models when you play around on the website. Have you noticed that they still produce the first ever Kombi? So to all with negative comments, stop complaining and buy an overpriced Corlla 1.3 or everything else. And surely when it comes to traiding in your previous Polo, they will acknowledge the difference. Same thing happened in '92 with the 1.3 Fox L and 1.3 Fox Trippa. |
The whole reason we were hoping that all the hype related to the Citi's replacement would have been the Brazilian Gol (the just-launched 2010 Gol, not the old shape) was that we would FINALLY get a class-leading half-tonner pick-up in the VW stable. This is the only market segment that VWSA has still failed to address (1 tonner arrives later this year). The new Gol is also available in a sedan version (the Voyage) so the platform would serve hatch, sedan and pick-up lines, thus VWSA would have benefitted even more in terms of economy of scale as opposed to re-hashing the Mk IV Polo in hatch & sedan only. See what we've missed: http://www.volkswagen.com/br/pt/modelos/Saveiro.html |
iyabiza |
For those who don't play the latest and greatest game the 1.4 derivatives are an astoundingly good buy. This was and still is a quality package, lets not forget that even last year the old Polo was outselling its modern rivals.... A NEW LEGEND HAS BEEN BORN! |
Good idea....With the citi lasting so long, it meant that parts and servicing became affordable...If they have the same plans with the Vivo Polo, then its a good idea....I just wonder how they are going to come up with new names for it every year...like they did with the citi....Next year's Vivo will probably VIVOcious and will come in loud colours...thereafter they will bring out a power packed, feature full version and call it Vi Volled it up! and then Vi Vont change and finally, Vi Vol of You Know what....This vill be an interesting car to Pollow, vat you say? |
After all that's been said and done, keep an eye on the sales figures. Be it private or fleet buyers, sales will show if it's a financial success. And in the end that's what it's all about. |
No matter what who says.....this will be the top seller in SA. Watch this space |
This isn't a bad move, price is a bit much but otherwise better then the Citi golf ever was. I drive the round light Polo with no problems. And if this can be as good as that then well done VW. Though to be honest they should've actually gone the round light way, make the car more distinct then the new Polo. |
A bit overrated,overpriced but would still sell |
@NotHappy: What is wrong now with your car's value? Are you claiming that this model will somehow induce breakdowns/unreliability to your one-year-old car? Or are you a car trader? what, what? |
VW kept us waiting in suspence for this. Its terrible. The consumers would have preffered something different. Wow they must have saved millions reintroducng this old spec polo. Its almost like false advertising. Making us believe theres going to be new designed citi replacement. Boring ,boring,boring,boring. Cant believe this is the replacement. VWSA is cheap. Boring designs and once again there cars all look the same as the next one. Must have been the samr designer for posche.Oh well this is Africa after all. |
I for one think the Vivo looks better than the old Polo. GTi headlights, new front end. Trim strips on bumpers and doors shaved. Looks good. Vivo sedan in candy White with some 15' deep dishes slammed to the ground, do I hear Euro style. |
R9000 is over the top for an aircon. I could aircondition a few rooms or a small shop for less than that |
R9280 for a aircon!!!!!!!! How the hell do you get that figure? In a country that has a warm climate most of the year, i reckon they should bring it out standard with aircon. 3 cupholders you gotta be kidding me! What a waste of money..... |
Well done VW Sa with peoples car thank you |
i'v got 2 diesel polo's 74/96kw 4 doors and think this is a good move for a low buget car |
Its a slap in the face for VW to compare their cars to a Hyundai.
I know Hyundai is the 5th largest car maker globally but the i20 is sooo tacky and terrible engine noise - its sounds cheap.A friend of mine bought one and is very unhappy.
Plus the i20 is girly,like most cars in this segment.
You can only buy the Polo and Fiesta,the rest are girly - think about it.For a girl its easy,a guy (straight) not! |
n the worst part is that my wifes polo is going to look bad cos this new one looks so similar |
The European version is way better!! This version lacks the looks, rugged jaw-line, and classy, sophistication cabin of it's EU brother. |
I think Vivo is elegant. Good looking, spacious and for all the members of the family. Love it! |
Please do me a favour. Stop giving your opinion. Go and drive the car, after that go and drive the competition. If you compare this against a Hyundai i10 at the same price then come back to this pole and give comments. All these bad comments about VW. The bottom line is that when people are looking for a R100K car and make comparisons this car will be the best. And without a doubt this car will be selling like hot cakes. |
I wonder if u can make it luk like a normal polo, sedan tailights change, I drove the 2007trendline sedan 1.6 and found it a great car to drive, this wish the same will happen. |
VW build rubbish cars.
I bought the round headlights Polo a few years back, and it gave me to so much problems I sold. I bought 2008 Model, brand new again, and at 35000 KM, they had to replace the entire gearbox.
I sold it and will NEVER buy a VW again. Their cars are RIP-OFFs. |
Remember, it costs MONEY to DESIGN a new car? Or have you all forgotten that?? Sometimes I wonder what you guys IQ's are...... |
I am stunned. South-Africans don't know what they want. First, everybody complains about the high car prices and demands a small cheap modern car. First, Renault gives us the Sandero and Logan, but STILL we complain. Then VW gives us the Vivo, and we STILL complain?! WTF!? For R100k you get a 1.4 Polo with Power Steering, and if you add A/C the price goes to R110k, which is not bad at all, considering you can get a Sandero for R119 900 which honestly don't have the quality of the Polo... I like Renault, but this is a better offering.. So stop complaining, if you can't afford a better car. Well done VW! |
NOT BAD BUT ABOUT R20K TOO EXPENSIVE |
I'm going to revoke some of my previous positive comments because there is no ABS on the lower models. WTF? This is 2010. ABS can't cost that much. We will have reckless idiots in 1.4 Vivo's ploughing into us. The lack of aircon is fine for a cheap car and some people don't want it or need it. The citi also came without aircon. |
R9000 for an aircon!!!? Sure about it? WTF!!!
This car will become a darling of fleet owners. Any individual in their right mind would opt for a demo new-gen Polo, or better yet, a demo Fiesta. |
Still not a toyota - what a pitty!! Dont want to be seen dead in one of those!! |
WHAT DA..!?!? How does VW think Polo owners feel about this? I drive my Polo with pride and realy do believe it's a great car (except the let down from VW which is another story). I agree with all of the above comments that VW should have had the decency to come up with a "new" model to replace the Citi. Sies for VW for taking away my previous Polo's "Polo-ness"! |
My wife's 1997 Polo Classic 1.6 has just passed the 160 000 kms mark. Expenses to date have been very low, the worst being the replacement of the aircon unit (R4800) and the radiator fan motor. I have serviced it myself every 15 000 kms after the warranty was over, and it still doesn't use a drop of extra oil between 15 000 km services. So if the Vivo delivers this, a lot of people are going to be very happy. No wonder the Polo was a consistent top-seller. |
What a joke...would never buy anything VW except for the Scirocco, this is just hopeless from VW...the fact that its compared to a Sandero says a lot about this thing. |
I think its a good car it will bring more people to buy a new car. VW must be careful that the vivo dont mess up the market for the new polo? but I think its good value for money. Well done VW |
@NotHappy. Don't worry, these cars are really stripped down: No aircon, no alarm, no central locking, no radio, indicators on the flanks and not mirrors, manual windows and mirrors, plastic door inners. There will be people looking for your car, just as there will be those wanting something cheap but brand new. |
Let's look at the facts. It's bigger than most cars in the same price range, with the exception of the more questionable brands. It's proven itself as a fairly decent vehicle. Sure, they've stripped it down a lot - I for one would have liked to see at least aircon as standard on all Trendline models. I don't think it's a bad move, and quite like the look of the new simplified bumpers and dark lights. Would have liked a more up-to-date rear light treatment, but that may come in the future. It's good for another 5 to 7 years, by then the Up! will be slotting in underneath quite nicely. |
I am so angry with VW. My 'old' POLO is a year old and now they produced a cheap knockoff of it. What will happen to the value of my car? |
This is the same strategy Opel adopted with the very popular Corsa B (Lite). It worked pretty well for them, although I must mention that I bought my Lite brand new for R69995. Even with optional aircon, alloys and radio/CD, it would have worked out less than R100k. |
Did they actually bother to "launch" this thing? the mind boggles! |
VW continue to display their laziness to the world, I just feel pity for the people stuck in this "market" of rubbish, or not, since they are also insipid people lacking imagination of any sorts. |
...just 1 thing...my 2006 1.4i Polo also came standard without aircon...this isn't a new thing! I had to put it in at a cost of R6500. |
Kolkas - ek dink jy slaan die spyker op die kop. This is fantastic value. Not fancy anymore since the new Polo is here, but lots cheaper, and a trusted brand, unlike the chinese and indian rivals... (and better than the Dacia, uhm Renault!). Mens het mos darem jou trots ook. Go VW! |
How can the writer mention the Hyndai i20 in here when it's even better than the new polo? Sandero should be worried this is winner from VW. Just feel pity for those prevous generation owners who will be paying more for those while we R999 for same fun. Deny it its the same thing and i dont care. I guess hijacking will skyrocket on this too since its the new CITI |
Everyone is forgeting something. Even though it is the previous model, its is still light years ahead of the Dacia Sandero and the Tata, at the same price. VW will have no competition in this calss until the Ford Figo gets here. PS, the i20 competes with the new Polo, not this old one. And yes, it is very good value for money. And in that class, I would most definatley go for the i20 over the overpiced, 1990 Fiat Uno backend Polo. |
I think i20 is a great car, but if I want a sedan? And there are many Hyundai dealers, but not nearly as many as VW. These VWSA okes know how to position product to corner the market - I'll give them that. |
Those petrol engines are very good, though hardly firecrackers. Thank God there is no diesel. And there is quality (beyond the ugly as sin Yaris) sedan alternative in my mind. I think the Vivo 1.6 sedan with AC is a very nice family vehicle. Good on VWSA for giving people what they need, not necessarily aspire to. Local sollutions to local demand issues. |
Add ac and the 1.6 hatch comes to 145k - just a couple of thousand below the i20. The i20 by far the best joice with 6 airbags and 5 year warrantee and more modern in every way. Must say that VW has a way marketing their products so well it ends up in your yard one way or the other... Something any other manufacturer can learn from them. |
Clever move by VW. Infinitely better (and slightly more expensive) car than Citi. No doubt some people will complain, but how can you blame VW for giving people what they probably want and have been hammering on about: cheap(ish), yet not suicidal, entry level transport. |
VW could not have done worse. Rather leave it at all. This is pathetic. A replacement for an ancient car, yet another ancient car. |
Hmmm... No it will not last as long as the Citi for sure because it does not have the same appeal. Another thing. The Citi had some quality problems but one could live with it as it was an icon of the 70's. I expect similar quality problems with the Vivo. By that I mean, it will not have the same quality standards as the outgoing Polo model (generation 4) because of cost-cutting and the higher local content. In any case it will only be a local model which does not really require too much of scrutiny on the quality side (watch this space for all those independent qulaity surveys indicating faults per 100 vehicles). I will not buy one, and will rather opt for the new Polo 1.4 trendline. Having said that, I believe it is good development by VW to produce a relatively low cost vehicle for a developing country such as South Africa and to support the local industry in creating jobs. |
My appetite for VW went out the window with the old Golf. So what does the Viva have in safety more than a Mark 1? JUST 2 airbags! And no AC again? What a ripoff. A facelifted stripped down version of last year's polo. Pointless. Distinctly souless... Vivo indeed... So now VW has an excuse the hike the prices of the new Polo's as well. These are entry level prices listed above to gain market penetration which doesn't seem too bad. But just watch in the next year the 15% jump. |
This is some bullsh!t, the least they could have done is make sure it new model in its own right. |
I am no VW fan... but I am impressed by their strategy. The old Polo was a decent car, now it's available for a decent price! And for all those that wanted to Brazillian Gol, I have had a close look at one - it's about as bad as the Renault Sandero, so, it might look great on paper, but those South Americans love things like Fiat Palio's, so, their appetite for quality is WAY BELOW south African expectations! VW, I think you have a winner! |