just wait for the vavlematic auris/corolla .... |
I think the Citi Xcite is not to bad, but the sound, guys love your idea but the box the Sub is in is like crap, to think that Lighting Audio now what they doing if you want to put decent sound please give me a shout i will show you guys how to put sound, i got the car and the box cracked, dont think i will want to buy something like this again |
Hyundai Man , coz Germans and the Japs as well as the Chinese do not get along .. so I would say Fukc any other make unless it is a German made .. and for the Jaris fans .. that piece of shte car for R110K , for a bloody 1.1 , my ma se moses ....VW Mk1 will never die ... it is made for the city hence the name citi and not Huyndai .. said as if one is crying in Japanese .... |
What's next? VW has been talking of stopping the production of the citi for years now. When will they stop giving us such rubbish? Surely our money is worth more than those pieces of stuff thrown together. By the way, I knw people who works at the factory that said that they will never buy a citi... i'll stop there. Think before you buy ppl. What is popular is not always what's best. If I had to but a car in that range, I'd rather but a 2nd hand polo or a corsa. Yes, the citi is fun to drive, but the con's outweigh the pro's in this case. anyone tried to get insurance for these little boxes?? Good luck! |
NICE ONE,THANX FOR INCLUDING AIR BAG AS A PACKAGE,THEY ARE GETTING THERE.
PLEASE IF YOU DNT LIKE BETTER REMAIN SILENT AND TALK ABOUT THE CAR THAT SUITS YOU POCKET.
I LIKE IT!!!!!! |
OVER PRICED . Dull and boring!!!! |
What a joke, it now comes with "a" airbag, has anybody here seen the cherry crash test videos on youtube, what about the GMV SUV. Yes these cars have airbags which makes them safe? No, like the city golf these cars are all made from recycled coke cans and rusted scrap metal, giving them the structural integrity of a cardboard box.
Really what does an airbag help if the steering wheel crushes your face first, the car has no designed crumple zones so an airbag is pointless, just a sales gimmick. If the car were fitted with ABS its bicycle like tires wouldn't lock and would minimize the risk of an accident in the first place. No airbag but ABS is always a better option.
VWSA is a disgrace to VW as a whole, I can't believe that these kinds of marketing and sales tactics are allowed. |
what i dont understand is why ppl have so much of bad thimgs to say about the citi, yes the citi is not safe looks crap but guess what the car sells like hell vw's huge market share is thanks to the citi take a look at toyota's stats since they stopped the Tazz sales have droped the Yaris is a crap car. if you dont like the citi then dont buy it, |
Why not add airbags to the ENTIRE range if you trying to impress people VW? Typcial VW marketing, trying to flog a dead horse back to life. In the case of the City, it's more like flogging a dinosaur. Crappest car ever to drive, and you feel like you are cocooned in a sardine can about to be trampled on by an elephant! |
@Lsavage: Fair enough and as i said there is really only one new car alternative with similar pricing to the citi and that is the hyundai , as the kia is far more expensive. Some would argue that i would rather pay for a car with a faster engine that i will use everyday than paying for an airbag whci i will only nedd if in an accident. As for used car's there are many people who would prefer a new car to a five year old car, and secondly the point we are discussing is what is better value for money than the citi on the new car market?- thus making it a stupid choice- the only other car that can compete here is the Hyundai Atos for R 88 900. Oh and guess what, it has no airbags or ABS brakes. So what is better value on the new car front then? If you are a budget buyer who has R 80 000 give or take to spend on a new car? Even R90 000? Thanks for your wishes. |
Allen. the fact that "saftey is not a puchasing priority" is just frightening. This car does not sell well because it is a good car, it sells well because most South Africans are suckers for clever marketing even when they are being ripped off. That's why every time I see a citigolf on the road I can't help thinking that the driver must be a complete w@nker because he was too stupid to buy a decent car and simply bought what he percieved to be popular. |
@Allen: Since we agree that labeling the citigolf as a *good* buy depends on one's priorities, it stands to reason that an assessment of those priorities determines whether or not the car is, in fact, a *smart* buy. Two very different things.
When it comes down to it, the citigolf represents a trade off between the desire (need?) to have a new car, with relatively good performance, and owning a safer car, either with less performance, or one that is second hand - or both.
We have already established what the cost equivalent choices to the citigolf are, namely something new but really small and underpowered like a Spark, Atos or Picanto, or something like a 5 year old D-Segment car (I used a Civic as an example because I owned one - but you could easily substitute Golf or Corolla etc etc) or an even older, but bigger car (Merc, BMW, Audi).
I strongly believe that the evidence regarding vehicle safety equipment is compelling to the extent that anyone willing to compromise on such features (where of course they do in fact have a choice on the matter) is either being foolish (ie they are aware of the safety issue and choose to ignore or dismiss it) or naive (ie they are unaware of the facts, statistics and science surrounding the topic of vehicle safety).
If anyone here wishes to believe I am simply being elitist, arrogant, stupid, jealous (?!?) or whatever, that is their prerogative. I sincerely hope (with futility) that none of you, or your passengers, ever land up in a situation where you needed that extra safety equipment... |
@Lsavage: Well quoted. I think we both know that what i mean't is that i don't expect every1 to love the citi and view it as the best car in that segment regardless of it's merits or lack there of, especially if you have certain buying priorities like saftey. However I personaly beleive it is the best car in it's segment for the price, like i said in my previous posts as saftey is not a puchasing priority for me especially when its in this segment. What i was objecting to is the fact that people do not acknowledge it as being a valuable option because it is not as safe as it's competitors products in the event of an accident - thus making it a foolsih choice, and that the people who buy it silly to do so. So when you said "and most importantly on consumers who are either foolish or naive and choose to buy their product." I took it that you too failed to acknowledge that the citi is a valuable option and thus would strongly disagree with you. I am glad that you now have acknowledged it is indeed a valuable option, which also makes your previous comment seemed daft. With regards to the honda vs VW you stirred me up with your comment saying "PS: I find it ironic that a VW fan should criticise any Honda on looks, especially when the topic of conversation is a car that makes VW's more modern offerings actually look attractive!" Again i saw this as being a very blind statement not really coming from logic at all, but rather from blind rivalry that you have between honda and VW- thus i thought it important to highlight why VW is still a more popular choice than honda - so you see there really was a need for me to launch into an off topic debate, since you created that need. |
hey ppl dont get all up tight about the citi golf the citi will be cut from the vw line up next year a new model range will be brought in it will only be made for africa and will be based on the current polo i got this info from vw sa |
How about where did the 1.8 go ? ? ? |
@allen: "i am not saying that Vw is the best car and that one must buy a citi because it is the best, all i am saying is that for many people it provides a valuable option". And I never refuted that point of view. But this is not the view you expressed earlier when you said: "my point is there is no better car for money if one is buying a new car than the citi" followed by "if you are looking for a new car in this price category the citi is the best". Which is of course the viewpoint that I was opposing. Its pretty clear that what you meant, and what you said, in earlier posts were not really the same thing, so please understand why it is that I thought your statements were pretty daft. So you see, there really was no need for you to launch into an off topic debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of Honda vs VW, and attacking me for my car brand preference, or whether I am in denial, because even though your previous comments made it appear that you were the one in abject denial, your clarification makes it clear that you actually aren't.
PS: I never said VW's were ugly (you inserted that interpretation yourself). Modern VW's look ok. A bit dull and bland for the most part (Scirocco excepted), but with more than a hint of understated class. The golf 1 looked good for its time, but that was 35 years ago, and even though it has aged pretty well, today it really just looks obsolete. |
@ L savage : Kia picanto costs R95 000 for the 1.1, this is alot more than R78 000. Is the chevy really a good option i would ask again R76 000 for a 38kw motor which any time soon is about to go bankrupt? Hyundai atos 1.1 R88 000. - yes a good car, but still more expensive than certain citi models for a really underpowered car. So yes if saftey is a priority you would choose the Hyundai. My point is that you can't say the citi is a terrible car becuase it most certainly is not, it gives people more choice and there is clearly value in the car, especailly if saftey is not a priority to you. For the price it has got really good value. As for your honda, it will always be dominated by VW, check out the last car hot hatch shoot out where VW's 4 year old GTI killed the civic in ratings from the drivers. Not only this but the GTi just like most VW's have been more popular amongst the public. Yes the jazz is doing well, but wait for the new polo. As for looks, i am not going to be so narrow minded to say that all hondas are ugly, because they have some really really beautiful looking cars and i actually really like the Jazz/Civic/ Accord- (actually most Hondas), however for you to say Vw's are ugly looking, just show's how much in denial you are. Honda must love you, you preech to people saying how they must open their eyes and stop being so stubborn and blind when it comes to lapping up manufacturers marketing. You are no different with honda, you should take your own advice and open up to other cars out there. Just so you know i am not saying that Vw is the best car and that one must buy a citi because it is the best, all i am saying is that for many people it provides a valuable option for the average person who can afford R 80 000 to buy a new car. Anyone who denies this is in denial as the market has already provern this with sales figures. |
Just shows vw's commitment to safety. So they put in one air bag, big deal....They rather put in a sound system, sport seats, color coded mirors ect than puting in an ABS system. Thats sick |
I cannot understand why anyone would pay all this money for a car that will still either kill you in an accident or get you hijacked within 3 months. If you've got less than 100k for a new car, don't bother. Second hand is the way to go... |
It doesn't matter what VW do or don't do to the Citi brand it WILL always sell and it WILL be popular. This little car has cult status, not based on EuroNcap, airbags or any other safety device that the sheeple of the world believe is what makes a car popular.
I guess in short you either love it or you hate it! Well then the truth surely hurts for those idiots who keep trying to degrade VW and the Citi brand because the Citi must have an awful lot of fans for VWSA to keep manufacturing it. It also does not have to be reinvented every year to appeal to it's target market. It is simply a true "peoples" car , which has a huge following the world over.
It is what it is... unfortunately for some of you, you just can't change that no matter how many sticks and stones you throw at it. |
Safer, and the first thing we read about is some sound equipment and then some visual enhancements?
What is that an indication of? How much the writer of this article or VW values car safety?
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Love it... After all. itz a VW! People who say bad things abt it are just jealious because there are so many on the road.! |
@ allen: Your assertion that the citigolf is the best value for money proposition really does depend on your priorities. The thing is that there really is no equivalent to a citigolf. Other new cars in its price bracket tend to be more modern, with better features, comfort, fuel economy, reliability and safety, but lacking in power and size (ok we are not talking Chinese or Tata rubbish - I think I would rather have the citi than those). So if you want an unrefined, unsafe, but fast car, then go for a citigolf. Personally I think a Spark, Atos or Picanto is a much more sensible idea and thus offer better value for money. PS: I find it ironic that a VW fan should criticise any Honda on looks, especially when the topic of conversation is a car that makes VW's more modern offerings actually look attractive! |
@anon: 9:28. If you had any knowledge of the motoring industry you would be aware that when it comes to quality, the consistent global leaders are the Japanese, NOT the Germans. In fact some German manufacturers, like Opel and VW tend to perform quite poorly in most quality surveys, usually ranking in the bottom 25% of manufacturers. Quality surveys rate Hyundai quite highly, and above most German brands. A case in point is the citigolf, which in the last 10 years has only managed to beat offerings from China and Tata in quality surveys. |
Wow! there are some really passionate comments out there. Facts are facts, even with the new safety improvements the golf does not come close to matching up on other contemporary cars. |
This car is making VW a lot of money, it most PROBABLY contributed significantly to VW being able to afford to produce the Bugatti Veyron! Anyways, it is ridiculous that a person would compare a chinese import with the Citi, the Citi still retains a good resale value and other qualities. U gotta luv VW...And that's my opinion! |
@ KOBUS.
I once had a front impact at 100km/h in my old citi golf (@sshole jumped a light). The engine never came into the passenger compartment.
I'm not saying the citi is up to standard in safety features, but its no as bad as some people make it out to be.
I just think its a rip-off for what you pay and what you get!!! To many other better options available today. |
For Golf sakes make them change the door handle mechanism. Its the number one floor of several that you still find in this vehicle, haven't they learned anything after 25 years yet?
And several Golf owners have exited their lives with 4-way speakers in all four doors and a pair of six by nines and a set of 12"/15" Woofers for for at least twenty years now get real!!!
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@anon who seems to be in love with the poodle a bit to much: Get some help mate, your obsession with poodles is very strange, maybe there is a pet website you could write your comments on, i'm sure they would love to hear how you bruch your poodle's hair. |
i just want to say that the citi range all comes out with airbags now not just the xcite.as many people say:the airbag doesn't justify safety features.remember this is a start for the citi range.ok the model has always been the same and the tech is dead standard for many years but it still sells.people critisize the citi and compare it to like of hyundai but they never ever think of resale value of their vehicles.has anybody ever tried to trade in a vehicle such as hyundai?seriously,think before you judge the model.people still love this car and not all can afford models which appear better.the citi brand is still strong and is still a high seller for VW.AND VW BELIEVES IN THEIR PRODUCT |
Consumers are still seduced by this senior citizen of a vehicle. LoL! As a Marketing student I admire VW's marketing team for an obvious reason...The Citi Golf!! |
This is comment number 500 we got a record here, people! Golf 1 is the best car ever! Go Poodle, Go Poodle. Me & Poodle are going "fishing" this weekend we going to buy a VW (Exit) Ecite on saturday morning. I'm just have to wash Poodle's hair, ag you know how these goldfish are, they like the wet look! I can see the number plate POODLE-WP! |
@Lsavage; My point being is that many people do want to buy new cars and not used cars, for many more resons than psychological ones- just because you do not understand them do not make them invalid. So to emphasise my point if you are looking for a new car in this price category the citi is the best. So i think people who are driving BMW's or the pretend to be rich snobs on this comments page overlook many key aspects when the"poor and cheap people" are looking to buy a car for under 100k. The citi is simply the best option and like i said to andre tell me which new car in this price category is better and then you can call people stupid for choosing the citi. That honda was so ugly though- much prefer the older civic and the new one! |
@andre: First of all if you are comparing The R98 000 Renault then you mean the 1.4 Authentique. This one does not have a motorplan, nor ABS, does without a radio and air-conditioning too and also has only one driver airbag. Thus you would compare R 78200 for the Tenaciti direclty with the Authentique for R98 800. Making it R 20 600 more expensive. For this lower segment R 20 000 is alot of money and actually creates a huge gap. So when affordability is your priority most people will compromise on crumple zones for a car that is cheaper, better on resale, parts and services, more zippy etc. Thus my point is there is no better car for money if one is buying a new car than the citi. So that's why i disagree with you when you say no matter which way you look at it the citi is a piece of shit, because you have just proven that you can't name a better alternative to it on the new car market. |
I watched a rerun of an old 5th gear episode where a Renault Modus was crashed into a late 80s/early 90s Volvo station wagon at a speed of 40mph per vehicle. The old Volvo (made by a company whose reputation has been - justifiably - solidly built on safety) came of second best to a little car. Reason - the way the vehicles are designed to dissipate the energy that is generated in crashes, coupled with the grades of steel used in modern vehicles. So VW can go ahead and fit 6 airbags in the Citi if they want, it will unfortunately, more than likely come of second best to a similar sized vehicle in a crash as long as that vehicle is one of the more modern EuroNCAP rated designs. I shudder to imagine the carnage should it meet a bigger vehicle, especially considering the speeds that Citi owners tend to prefer. VW would have earned a semblance of respect from me if they had opted to fit ABS brakes and upgraded the brakes themselves as well as looked at the tyre/wheel combination for this vehicle. Lovely having an airbag, even better avoiding the accident in the first place. And yes, they could have done this and still sold the Citi at these entry level prices, God knows how many times over this particular car has paid for itself. So to all the guys who are singing the Citi's praises and commending VW for "giving the customer what they want", consider that a second hand Yaris with 50K on the clock will set you back around the same as your "brand new" Citi. There is, in my opinion, no reason - save for mind numbing inanity - to buy a "new" Citi. As for VWSA, this takes corporate greed to a whole new level. |
@ Paramedic Guy: Safety features in cars serve to reduce the probability of injuries and death. They do not guarantee anything. So yes, it is possible that an expensive, "safe" car and a cheap "deathtrap" could be in similar accidents, and the occupants of the deathtrap survive while the occupants of the safe car are maimed and killed. However if you looked at all the similar accidents, it would be very apparent that more often than not, the deathtrap occupants are the dead and maimed while the occupants of the safe car walk away. Its a bit like playing Russian Roulette. Whether you have 5/6 chambers loaded, or just 1/6, you can still die, and it is possible that the person with the 1/6 will die and the other person won't. But honestly, if you had to choose one of the 2 guns, would you still argue that it makes no difference? |
Oh... and as for those die hard German car supporters who think the Germans are the only people who make quality cars, then take into consideration that those same German people have decided the Hyundai i10 is the best small car to buy because it is currently the best selling small car in Germany... |
Its quite simple really. The Citi Golf was the first mass-produced small car to come with front crumble zones, a technology first used by Mercedes Benz(as usual). That was 30 years ago, now as every year goes past, manufacturers strive to get their cars safer by spending millions each year on crash safey research, this goes from how to improve structural rigidity while still being able to deform to a point so that the vehicle can "crumble" safely. This means the the front, rear and as well as possible, sides of the vehicle can absorb an impact in a uniform fashion so the vehicle "slows down" during an accident, instead of jst stopping dead. Although in milliseconds, the "slowing down" of a modern car in an accident is what saves your life because your body does not suddenly stop. They say that in an accident there are 3 impacts. The Vehicle impacting the other vehicle/object, then there is the outside of your body impacting the interior of your car, and then there are internal injuries resulting from the sudden stop. Crumble Zones, Airbags, Seatbelt pre-tensioners etc all help to limit these forces on your body. Modern cars are built on mistakes learnt in the past, and manufacturers improve on old designs. Thats whay VW is manufacturing the Golf 6 and didnt sit back and say well the Golf 1 was the best car we ever made... because there is always room for improvment... i.e. modern is better |
what took so long to actually equip citi golfs with safety features(and if this true i might consider joining Golf Club)? On behalf of my brothers and sisters (golf lovers) thanx VW for taking people's life into consideration... |
Chances are it will be stolen from you before you get a chance to have an accident. Making a citigolf safer is not the answer - imagine if all those bad drivers had lived. I must disagree with those hyundai bunch tho - I will only EVER buy a german car having no money is not an excuse for compromising on quality |
"Paramedic Man" Replying - My point I have seen cars with and without safety features and the outcome after the accident always differs - Believe when I tell you this , Sometimes cars with no saftey features are involved in a high speed car accident people come out with little or no injuries and vice versa with cars with lots of saftey. I think you missing the point all of you. It is great that the cars are made safe , The human body has not been design to handle the stresses of high impact. Please other people in this field " any comment" |
I think I'll walk thank you very much.Do me no favours. VW. |
My God who do VW think there trying to fool ? an airbag ? do me no favours ! |
I agree with Hyundai man who commented very early on this model. If you are looking for value for money and optimal safety, buy any Hyundai. I drove Hyundai's and still think they are better than some of their Japanese counterparts (and even some German and French Brands). I am fortunate enough to have moved on to a slightly more premium brand, but will remain a Hyundai fan all my life. There is a reason Hyundai won car of the year in the US. Unfortunately for the Citi, the design is simply old school and cannot compete with newer models as far as safety is concerned. It's true value is the semi "cult" status the car has, carried over from the original GTI. It still is a relatively good looking car, especially to those of us who were around when the first GTI's rolled out....Unsafe as all hell, but quite a thrill to drive....in any event, if you are stupid enough to drive irresponsibly in something like a citi golf, I guess you deserve what you get. |
I just had a really good laugh at those who say that the sh*ti is the best handling small car. I have only one thing to say tou you lot. Try driving another car. Any other car! Well, with the possible exception of the 1400 Nissan bakkie. That is marginally worse than driving a sh*ti. |
Anonymous User at 1:44 PM, are you a paramedics? How did you become two (or more) paramedics, did you take the exam twice? (with apologies to Basil Fawlty). You have a point that in most 120km/h crashes, most safety features become pretty much obsolete. However, I have a friend that survived her Toyta Yaris rolling 7 times after a tyre burst at 120km/h. If it wasn't for the curtain airbags, her head would have come out of the window and she'd be dead. If she was in a CitiGolf, she'd be dead now. And what about accidents at lower speeds? Even at 60km/h, you can die, but it's very unlikely that you will die if you're in a modern, 5-star NCAP car. The same can't be said for the Citi, even with it's wonderful new airbag (LOL). Just stop making it VW... Or keep making it, but price it realistically. |
Drag racer from Despatch, reinforcing the body doesn't make it a safer car. It just means that the car's frame will absorb even LESS of and impact, causing the force on the occupant's body to be even more violent... |
Whoopideedoo! It's still ugly |
Another VW piece of crap. Waste of money people!!!! |
they change everything but the door handles, which is probably the most important change that the golf needs, as the cheap door handles are what makes the golf such an easy car to steal.... anonymous car thief... |
@allan: I sold my 2002 Honda Civic 170i for R70K. It is an infinitely better car than a brand new R80K citi, beating it comprehensively on almost every single front, including: Safety, performance, fuel economy, comfort, features, style, fun factor, refinement etc etc etc. Given the citi's perennial dismal performance in JD Power's annual reliability survey, I would guess that the Civic will be more reliable too.
The only advantage of the citigolf is that it will have less maintenance issues from wear and tear in the short term (first few years/50 000 km). To be honest, if I had the choice of keeping my Civic, or trading it for a top of the range CitiRox (worth R105K), I would easily choose the Civic. No actually I lie. I would take the CitiRox, sell it to some unwitting idiot, and then buy back my Civic, pocketing the change. Honestly, the only reason people buy citigolfs as opposed to significantly better second hand cars, is that they "want" a brand new car. Its a purely psychological issue and has nothing to do with rational thinking, sound logic, or proper research. |
There have been a lot of replies on the topic of safety, and some have been intelligent, while many are just plain daft. Firstly, the argument that a "safe driver" can compensate for a lack of safety features is ridiculous. Logic dictates that any driver, no matter how safely they drive, will be even safer with better safety features. Anyone who even has a clue about ABS will be able to tell you that when your car loses traction with the road, the driver no longer features in the equation. ABS allows even an average driver to regain traction almost instantly, thereby returning control to the driver. Furthermore, in many accidents, one of the drivers is not in a position to influence the outcome, so in those cases, the only thing that you can do to protect yourself is to rely on safety features. The second concept I take exception to is the contention that if someone else wishes to drive an unsafe vehicle, that that is their concern and not mine. As stated above, many accidents happen in which one party could do nothing to avoid the situation. Some of these accidents could be prevented if the driver at fault had things like ABS, or a car with better handling. In exactly the same way that unroadworthy taxis are to blame for some accidents, so too is the lack of ABS in citigolfs. Thirdly, the argument that safety features like ABS and airbags and a 5 star Euro-NCAP rating will not always save lives, while true, is still an irrelevant argument. The point is that less lives will be lost if safety features are present. In a country like SA, every year there are still many hundreds of lives that could have been saved, and many injuries that could have been avoided or mitigated had the parties involved been driving vehicles with better safety features. Fourthly, one cannot blame VW for this situation - well not entirely. They are simply putting corporate greed ahead of social responsibility. However they still rely on government's failure to institute stricter safety standards on cars, and most importantly on consumers who are either foolish or naive and choose to buy their product. |
Andrew I damn well agree with you...protecting the head and not the torso wuld be da dumbest thing to do. little did know that loud sound system act as a safety feature no of late.. I guess the VW guys are trying to say something to us but not audable enough/ clueless and wishing not to retract this article as we speak. Not unless safety mean something recently. I drove a golf before the Velocitis and so called Xcite..I discarded the the car cos 1 I developed this huge chest like Im on steriods..reason no power steering...broke the brake padal cos the S..t wuld'nt to stop when i needed the brakes..had to put in this loud sound system b'cos of the rattles which made it worse.. could not fit with my two fat friends cos of the back seat which is so high I wished the car had a panoromic roof so they can stick their heads out while in transit .. Guys come on..why are we even talking about this piece of metal.. |
most of u may have not noticed but this car is a legend.wrong or right reasons it is up there.look how many hv commented albeit criticising the cars upgrade.u all hv an interest in this car and cant wait to see wats next for it.trust me u ll all miss it wen its gone.m plannin to buy 2of them to keep 4lyf. |
Anon 3/5/2009 12:05 PM > You speaking from experience or thumb sucking? There is a difference between buying non-genuine and genuine parts. Genuine VW parts from the agents cost more than the equivalent Korean manufacturers Genuine Parts, its been proven in 3rd party parts surveys. You cannot compare Speedyquip parts to genuine parts. Please compare Apples with Apples and dont embarrass yourself. Quite simply, everybody and anybody who supports the Citi is obviousely too afraid to try something different or is living in the past. Some of you say that the reason VW still makes it is because its such a good car... no, its all about money, they still make it because they know that there are 1000 suckers a month who will buy it which puts money in thier pockets. Get with the times people, the world has moved on... you should too... |
Well say what you want, i'f been in the industry for 9 years and Citi is still the best entry level run around on the market. In fact i own 2 and a G5 2.0Fsi. 850km on 50litres of fuel, cheap to service and Insurance on both under R 1000.00p/m. Stunning car and it shows in the sales. Month to month best seller.?!? |
Anon user @3:04 are u retarded? Road holding in a golf? U must be about 16. And the reason its still the top seller is cos South Africa has possibly the stupidest car buyers on the planet,u being one of them when u stand up for a tin can on wheels like that |
To anon at 2.40pm, "The only people that comment on the citi being a good buy, is the ones who cannot afford a decent car" Boy, you really are an idiot. Your blind hatred for the citi is making you loook foolish. It is not rocket science that if you can afford something for around R100 k, you will buy something for R100k not a bmw or something for R250k. In it's price range and the value for money you get from a citi golf, best buy in the price bracket.
Sales speak louder than words so all you citi haters can do flip flacks, the car is appealing and people but it. The bigget idiot drivers are either small men in 4x4 suvs, or BMW/Merc etc who forget that cars have indicator lights.
And no, I don't drive a citi before some ignorant fool lays into me (have had a few) |
10 to 15 years ago when the only cars that had abs etc were more expensive Mercs and BMs there were fewer road deaths than there are today with our "safer" cars. All these saftey features do is give more people the confidence to drive like idiots and completely ignore the rules of the road. These days people pay no attention to stop streets or red robots. How many idiots do you see turning even though the robor is red or pulling away before it changes green. Mosty people don't even know what a solid white line means anymore. They expect their saftey aids to keep them alive not common sense |
@Allan, yes you can get my taxi, but what a about the new Renault that's been launched for under a R100K Yes, you might say that it is bad service and and and, but you that you gonna get from VW anyway, and it is a lot safer car.
And at Anon 3:04pm... NO, I dont drive Audi or BMW sorry, you have guessed wrong. |
PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE, KILL THE GOLF 1!!!!!! VWSA bring your small euro car the lupo to Africa, it's a new design and new ideas!!!! The freakin golf 1 is 25 years old and a death trap with rattles. |
Mr Paramedic..... Airbags are not designed to help you if you crash at 120km/h. They are tested at a speed of 60km/h, and you of all people should know that!
And don’t tell me that crumble zone and all the safety futures doesn't help.... I was in an car accident last year with my Megane RS on the N1 where a car in the oncoming traffic lost control, came through the middle man, and hit me at about 110km/h.... rolled my car about 7 times, and I was 100% fine except for a very stiff neck.... So all these safety futures are there for a reason, trust me... Why would motor manufactures spend 100 millions of dollars on developing it?????
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Sour grapes or what? BUT guess what, VWSA will even sell more Citi's out there now that there is an airbag. I would still rather buy a new Citi than some of these "cheap" imported cars from the East. I know because I drove a Citi Life for 5 years and still miss the "fun per buck" aspect.
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Adding an airbag doesnt suddenly make it an adequately safe car by modern standards. At best the citi has now achieved its first euroncap star! Even a non-airbag Chev Spark or corsa lite would be safer. http://www.euroncap.com/tests/mercedes_benz_c_class_1997/18.aspx If a 90s merc c class with airbags only achieved 2 stars, then how the hell is a 70s vw going to come close. |
Andre, i take it you drive a BMW or an Audi, like most idiots on the road who think the own the right hand lane when they get the keys to the car, if you dont like it dont buy the it, 1/4 the cost of your car is the air bags anyway, the citi has better road holding than most in it's price class anyway , its funny howeverybody slags a citi yet it remains one of the top sellers in SA |
Apart from the airbag, the body is also reinforced in various places and it now has a collapsible steering column. Overdue...sure, but still a top seller!! |
@andre, Could you please tell me, if one is not looking for saftey when making their decision to buy in the R 80 000 price range, what is a better choice than the citi? Yes i know an un-roadworthy taxi, but what else as i would prefer something a little smaller. How much are you selling your taxi for? |
The only people that comment on the citi being a good buy, is the ones who cannot afford a decent car. VW will only can the Citi in 2011 - even the cheap Chinese vehicles have "more" safety features than a 25 year old Citi - only two things on earth are visible from outer space, the great wall of China and the gaps in a Citi Golfs body panels!!!!!!!!!! |
Ill rather buy a TATA before this piece of SH@T!!! |
How long will the audi system remain int he car....?? We all know the Citi has an impenetrable security system... |
this is the safest cars on the road at this price point. when you take into account the price, handling and great classic look then you have an unbeatable package. nothing else compares... and go... |
No point having an airbag if the passenger compartment is a twisted scrap of metal. Sorry Sir, we saved your head but I'm afraid your legs and torso will have to be cut off. |
No point having an airbag if the passenger compartment is a twisted scrap of metal. Sorry Sir, we saved your head but I'm afraid your legs and torso will have to be cut off. |
Would far rather be in a Citi than one of the new cheapies on the market. Allan there is nothing wrong with a 1.4 Polo especially in traffic! |
As if it was not a high risk car already, it now comes with a SOOPER DOOPER sound stystem, this is gonna be a bonus for the thieves, well done VW, this is great for increasing Insurance Premiums for the South African customers. |
I bought another make of car, admittedly 2nd hand (2yrs), with dual-airbags and better braking for about the same price. Plus numerous other safety features that this car doesn't have. This car does NOT Xcite me! |
Ag, nice VW! Thank you so much! But I will still NOT touch the S**ti with a ten foot bargepole. Just now that incredibly cheap and nasty airbag deploy when you go over a speedbump, taking off your head in the process! This car will get you killed, one way or another... |
And what about powersteering? |
I had to say something concerning all the safety equiment in Cars . All the crumple zone . airbags etc will not safe you when you have a head- on collition at 100-120 Km , Why , the forces that the body goes tru is toooo great , so having all these safety jagon will not help you. Belive me I am in the industry where you see it every day , I am a paramedics. |
Like every other person in South Africa, my first car was a 1991 shiti Golf 1.3, 4 speed P.O.S. - I couldn't afford anything else. When you're just start working and just get your license, the only choice is a shiti. I had a accident in it where the brakes locked up (no surprise there) in the rain and the car was written off. I realised that no matter how cheap a car is, Your life is worth more than saving a few cents on a death trap. NEVER, NEVER again will I ever buy a VW again as a result!! Not that all VW's products are bad, it's just that I was scared sh1tless, after my accident, and I wouldn't recommend a shiti to anyone. And by the way R 105 590.00 for a car that started selling (Let alone designed) 35 years ago is NOT CHEAP, IT'S insanity. DEATH TO THE SHITI !!!! iT MUST DIE !!!! |
Cheap it may be, but what you save on the swing, you lose on the round-about, have you seen what it costs to insure. And to all the ANONS, if you think you have a valid point at least have the balls to put your name behind your statement.
A EURO N-CAP 1 STAR car is safer, therefore any cheaper car is way safer and cheaper to run and insure. But hey if you like it, buy it, you won't be missed by me, the same goes to those who don't wear seatbelts or strap their kids in. |
Doesn't matter how you look at it, the City Golf is a piece of SH@T!!!!! An un roadworthy taxi is more safe than a City!!!
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How more can they XCite me lmao |
To the anonymous user with an attitude problem, please go and buy this long overdue piese of crap and enjoy it, oh yes and at the same time please get a life maybe an xcited one, it can only improve your current lifestyle as you would be trading in your 1981 VW city with the white and yellow/red/blue sides, just remember to take out all the aftermarket crap you have added to the car in the hope it be faster and meaner - yeaah. |
This car is now safer than any other car in it's class. Well done VW! Now the critics (Barney and Friends) can all stand back and keep themselves buckled into their cars with no airbag, only safety belts! Now my goldfish 'Poodle' can go fishing with me....I can see him getting "Xcite" when he catches that big shark. Yipee Doodle Dee!!! Go Poodle, Go Poodle!!! |
alot of 'Anonymous' comments come from ppl who dont know what the hell they are talking about the citi golf range is a cheap car that does the same job as any other car if you wankers cant drive dont blame the car. if you look at the Toyota yaris it cost R 110 000 not everyone can pay that price for a 1.0 motor the citi has power and looks |
Um...i thought that airbags worked in conjunction with crumple zones?
The crumple zone gives the airbag enough time to deploy? Am I wrong? |
New stickers, new paint job, new radio tape, hell you even get an air bag now. But the same old 14" alloy wheels which first came out on the Citi almost 10 years ago. How about giving us another 14" alloy wheel to choose from when we buy our Citis?. |
A Brilliant cover up... The noise from the sound system wont give away all the rattles and squeaks the car makes after you buy it... they just covering up the bad build quality with noise!!! Brilliant Marketing... As the Noise comes standard... I'd rather buy a shell for cheap and build a better car up myself... Like the VW club guys do it!!! |
I am laughing at the Euro Ncap quotes and the "safety" issue...you knobs who quote this, hope none of you drive 4x4s cause bar the NEW triton 3star and barely made it Navara 2 star the other 4x4 Pickups/Double cabs failed hopelessly so you not safer in a 4x4 head on, side impact yes head on you are just as likely to die in the Hilux as this "new" Citi..so take a chill pill and quote on things you know not what you assume..dumbass's...typical SA mindset, BIG TYRES,BIG BUMPER...BIG PRICK...
One thing is for sure, it will keep on selling till even after it's gone.
As for it's replacement, striped down version of the present Polo,that's it so let the whining being...
Oh and to all those out there who knock it for being"dangerous" and taking VW to court...GROW UP...people buy what they can afford, what gets them from A-B...that is it..Citi's are CHEAP to run and even cheaper to repair,parts are everywhere and every qualified mech in SA can work on them...the Korean imports...they good but you going to cough for parts cause ALL cars break,sometime,if you not in an accident so, it comes down to being CHEAP....reliable.....and that is it.....
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You people on here must understand people do not buy them for saftey. You bought your cars for saftey and thus you are not in the market for this car. VW has the Golf v and up for you guys, so why can't they cater for another large market who is not concerned with saftey, it does not affect you, you will be "safe" in your euro 5 star cars, so stop bitching. Any person buying the car is not conned into beleiving it is safe every1 knows that it is not. Why would any company stop making a car that is so in demand? You say the car is a bad because it is not safe. I say the car is good because it is cheap, it is great on fuel, services and parts are really cheap. It is quite zippy because it is so light. It is a lot more exciting to drive than polo 1.4, hyundai, yaris and the crap 1.1 engines you can get for the same price. If you have R140 000 to spend then ya don't buy a citi. But if you only have a 100 000 and wan't a new car then it is a great option provided you are not buying purely for saftey against accidents. Another thing resale value is brilliant! So why such hang ups about a good car? Why hate VW for catering to an existing South African market. As soon as people don't want the car anymore then I am sure Vw will stop making it. People have been crying out for saftey so what does VW do, they try make it a little bit safer- all you fools think it's a brand new model, it's just a sticker and an airbag. Give it a rest, if your not in the market for the car and have spans of cash then cool move on. |
I's rather have ABS |
At least the CITI's indicators work. It doesn't matter how many airbags your car has or how expensive it is, it won't stop my fist colliding with your face when you drive like a ponce in a "safer" car. |
to everyone (3 of you) that responded....thanks....
if you read between the lines of my previous comment,there's a hint of sarcasm.
i contemplated buying a CITI/CHICO/CRAPPO.i got in the car and immediately got out and stuck to my current car like glue.i had a side impact with my "safe as houses" american car.the car took the impact.the guy was doing 80km plus,and all of us by the grace of GOD survived.i think that if i were in something like a CRAPPO we'd all be dead or seriously injured.these dinosaurs do not belong.by the way these cars (according to WIKI) have been in production since 1974.it was discontinued in 1983.good old SA in the ONLY country still producing it.and no the suspension is not modern unless modern is 10 years ago.......down with CRAPPO....and it's expensive |
Most affordable car on the road. Cheap to maintain and still brakes and corners better than most of the latest Japs, Koreans not to mention Chinese. Decent 1400 engine to safely pass a big bus or truck. This stays the true peoples car. Old - 4 sure, but nothing better at the price. |
We all know our own abilities behind the wheel of a car what ever it might be. What we don't know is the abilities of everyone else on the road. I was recently T-boned by someone jumping a red robot. My passenger is very greatful that I had curtain airbags etc. Rather have them and not use them than need them and not have them!
Certainly if we were in a Citi the 4x4 with bull bar would've gone right through us.
The bottom line is that we as the buying public have ourselves too blame for lapping up the high prices that the auto industry commands. I agree to no bail out for the industry - just sorry for the workers though.
I can fly to Australia and buy a Toyota manufactured in SA - import it back here and will still save R50k depending on the model - just shows you how they're bending us over! |
Now I do feel very safe, maybe I can bounce over the other car with my Doef Doef Doef. I drove a Golf 5. A guy with a Clio came over into my lane, I tried to stop, but without any luck - think my golf's brakes failed or something - anyway, from my experience I would rather recommend the Clio. Renault's are just that much safer. |
HAHAHAH so now when you have a smash in your citi (because everyone does) the only thing that will be left behind is the deployed airbag. LOL after 30 years the only new thing is a airbag mwhahaha sorry guys going to have to wait another 30 for a passenger one or ABS who knows. |
Got some advise, when you drank the 5L papsak plat... take the airbag out of the box ,blow it up and give it to your goose. (she will need it) |
I wish all the people on these sites will familarise themselves with some facts first. Go and look on Youtube etc where they actually crash a Megane with a real person as dummy into the side of a Ford. Look at the damage on the car, it's beyond the point of safe. I've seen Megane's being involved in accidents at very high speeds and it really is safe. I've been in an accident myself at a speed of 130km/h in my 2004 Megane on the N1 and no sign of injury (the car still looked quite good as well). |
Euthanasia live on in a Citi Golf |
IF all drive like they should, no one here will hate Citi Golfs. It is a brilliant little machine. Driver awareness = safer roads. |
Have you dumbasses ever heard of affordability?? Yes, it may not be equipped with 14 airbags like the rest of the fancy cars out there (yes airbags help, but also makes the tosser behind the wheel feel "immortal" and therefor alot of guys will drive like the car will save you from ANY form of accident). Not everyone can afford a car with all the bells and whistles so this is a pretty good second i would say. As agreed with alot of the comments above - its not the car that kills people, its the idiots that drive them that do. Ditch it all you like, its affordable from A-B, popular and people will always buy it. Maybe the lot of you that are complaining about near death experiences in this car should learn how to drive, or perhaps just take a taxi home in the future. |
When is this going to end. They have not learned that in a slow economy you have to cut back on costs. Why do dealers need so many variations of the same thing? I say no bailout plan for manufacturers. When is their bubble going to burst? |
One airbag - now I really do feel safe! |
One car with one airbag on the drivers side, is not safer than a car with ABS, they should have invested on putting ABS, be cause it can help you to avoid collision and also save you and your passengers. ABS is something that you use everyday, but airbags mmmmhhh. |
Hey Volksie, lets see you get klapped by a taxi china, then we'll check you change your tune. This car should be sent straight from the dealer to the scrap yard. |
Hyundai Man,
Yes it is a marketing excercise by Hyunda and they also believe in their product. The Customer benefits!
Othe manufactures who sell simlar volumes like Hyundai are the French but they will never provide such a good warranty becuase firstly they do not belive in their product's longevity and furthermore, as soon as a French car is out of Warranty, the buyer becomes a "Cash Cow".
Toyota and Vw wont offer such warranties as well but not because the product is poor but because their cars are selling themselves.
Hyundai is benefiting themselvs and the Buyer. Well done to you!
Well done to Hyundai |
Lots of new models cars have surfaced, (all makes) but with the international global crises, part manufacturing are stopping, which means you're going to regret not having 30 years of spares lying around, if you're not driving a citi. |
Do a You Tube search for Golf crash tests.
These thing fold like straw houses. 80K for a car that they have recouped the R&D costs on 20 years ago already - boy aren't South African gullible. I had one as a loan vehicle for two weeks - I felt safer driving an Uno. |
This is a long onverdue improvement, and I am very surprised that it has not happened a lot earlier. I think that those who want to charge VWSA with manslaughter every time somebody is killed in a Citi Golf are too extreme; people also die in Mercedes-Benzes and BMW's. The worst driver in the safest car is more dangerous on the road than the most competent driver in a Citi Golf. I see that there is a possibility that the Brazilian Gol will replace the Citi Golf, and if VWSA can keep its price at a reasonable level, it will be a worthy replacement. I heard that it might be called the Polo Metro for our market. So at least there is eomething for cash-strapped VW fans to look forward to. |
KILL IT! KILL IT! KILL IT! Pleeeeeeeeze |
This is the worst car anyone can buy, cheap, fast, no safety or security. Insurance is super high for these cars, No1 for being stolen, cheap for the cheap ass people |
Jody is either the funniest man alive or the biggest idiot ever |
Alan, is that a great improvement? You must have low expectations then. All they did was add in the Mitchells Plain as a standard feature instead of an aftermarket feature. Now we can hear the doef doef doef as it leaves the showroom! |
Come on!! time for a new shape, get with the program even the old Toyota Tazz has seen the light...get some curves CITI, or get out! |
Ha Volksie, lets see how feel about your rubbish when parked at a Robot and you get steam rollered by some idiot, hope that airbag doesn't add to the damage when it explodes.
This car was designed over 20 years before people even thought of safety, I'm surprised ti even came with Seatbelts! Coffin on wheels! |
Take this junk off the road. Does the airbag work??? no abs? why not? cant believe that so many peolple buy this cars |
why does everybody complain about the Citi golf, and it being a death trap, it's not the car that kills people, the idiots that drive cars in general are to blame, nobody complained 15 years ago about the Citi not having a air bag , maybe the drivers should learn to be more responsible |
Lookcry all u want, have you seen a Megane 5star rated in an accident at 160km, there is almost no chance of survival......thats just an example so dont think im comparing a citi to megane.
My point is no matter what car you in with what safety you bound to be injured simply due to the fact that no road car is tested to withhold accidents at speeds over 60km/h.
People keep on keeping on ,you haters can say what you like VW citi still outsells just about anything in the segment.....and has been for decades....the proof is simply in the pudding.
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Again the Cit bashers come out in hordes, like flies to a poo.
Personal choice people, people choose to buy citi golfs. I had a few in my youth, fantastic cars, reliable, easy to maintain, fun to drive etc. As for the 30 year old technology, that is bollocks. The body may be pretty much the same but suspension and other mechanics are modern.
I love the fact that a car loved by millions is hated by millions too, a true icon.
And no, I don't currently drive one but would not hesitate to buy another one day.
PERSONAL CHOICE PEOPLE, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!!! |
Keep hating this car probably will sell around 250 in the first week.....so while you all hating others out their are still buying...if there is demand why cut supply?
I think business mindedly its great , costs are long paid off, just re-vitalise the model and it soikes sales. As far as safety goes, people out there keep going on about airbags and more airbags, you could be in a five-star rated Ncap vehicle and still die....stupid driving gets stupid results , drive decently and you wont have to worry about airbags. Another point how many "safest cars" out there fail to deploy the airbag in a collision?
HOw many collisions are no faster the 50km/h? now that I got you thinking , remember all these tests are carried out at 50km/h and as a result can never be a true reflection cause unless you in a parking lot and have an accident you almost always will be doing more then that speed wise......
At the very least VW is trying to offer what target customers want, sound nippy performance....and now something for piece of mind an airbag! |
At the top of this page is a link that says "SA's Top Selling Cars" Open it and see where this very same car features being 30 years old and all. Speaks for itself. |
VW sold 1136 of them deathtraps last month. How many Sanderos did Renault sell? You guessed it - 75. South Africans really are suckers. There is no reason why VW should scrap the Shity. I twill continue to sell well. It even outsold the Toyota Yaris last month. |
I had a head on in a citigolf with another citigolf, combined speed probably about 130 - 140km. a driver airbag would have been nice, but we all survived - just. driver compartment coped well considering the age of the design. seatbelt didn't stop the steering wheel from swallowing my head though. Too little too late VW, this should have been available for more than 5 years now i'm afraid. |
Jody with an argument like that I can see that long term exposure to pumping techno in your citi have done permanent brain damage, you are more than welcome to buy a citi... you deserve one. |
Retire Already! |
Jody, any idiot can drive fast and fit his car with loud speakers to listen to his "tunes". Why don't you just admit the real reason guys go out and buy Citi's, and then fit them with sound and go to drag racers is because they can't afford decent safe cars. |
Kobus hou op om heeldag op die internet te kuier en doen jou werk!! |
Like putting a plaster on a stab wound. An airbag doesnt help in side and rear collisions, also no seatbelt tensioners or ABS. So VWSA is saying: "lets attempt to maybe save the driver if he is in a head on collision only, as for the passengars - who cares" |
Great - Long live the Citi!! Whatever some idiots say, whatever their opinions are, this little car is really living up to its name - a car for the people! I drive one, rallied one, had (and still have!) a lot of fun and pleasure. And no, when I drive my super equipped Audi, with airbags et al, I still do not feel any different about my Citi, as I am a safe driver, who anticipate the actions of drivers around me. Go VW go!! |
to all the haters out their......be jealous....people are still buying this master piece of engineering ingenuity.it has been proven that an air bag will protect me 100% even if it is fitted to a car that will imploded at contact with a PRAM.
Lightening Audio.....yeah
to Hyundai Man....i'd rather have a pumping system than a warranty,cause even when the rest of my body dies on impact with that PRAM,my head (safe from the air bag) will be bopping to the tunes on my Lightening Audio system.....yeah |
What is safer? No mention in this article about the new safety features.
I agree with the other comments. Nothing new, just more gimmics and gadgest to entice entry level buyers. Take this stupid thing off the road. It is a deathtrap! |
You'll still die when involved in an accident, but at least with this one airbag, you'll be able to have an open casket burial, because your face will be safed. |
No X-citement here...., a new sticker and whoala a new model....if they really want to sell them put on a drainpipe sized exhaust to match the boom box inside, man they will fly off the shelves. |
Wow, with standard features like a steeringwheel, mirrors(colour coded) and a black stripe, where has this beauty been all my life! |
What a wonderful way to celebrategolf's 250th dog birthday! |
pointless having all that sound, VW drivers will rip it off and add new ones. |
Can't wait to go out and buy this Citi now, it is clearly the safest car on the market now it has an airbag. Never mind its 30 year old suspension, driving dynamics and lack of road handling, not to mention no abs, ebd etc. Stupid VW - surely the point is to prevent the accident not to try and keep the driver alive for longer by putting an airbag in. This car is a death trap and VW should be charged for manslaughter every time someone dies in a Citi. They clearly value profit over the lives of the people who buy their cars, at least Toyota had the balls to ditch the Tazz. |
Will VWSA ever realise that thay can't hope to position themselves as a "premium" brand while still selling these horrible little death traps? |
WOW COLOURED CODED MIRRORS AS STANDARD...I am so excited, I can't wait ....I so much wanted coloured coded mirrors....and I'll buy it just just for the colour coded mirrors thats standard. Who cares if my girlfriend will have head smashed against the dashboard due to lack of passenger airbag, as long as I have my colour coded mirrors. Its all about the mirrors. |
When will it have a Euro NCAP 5 star rating? 2025? What a typically rubbish VW. No surprises here. |
Give them credit for trying, but with a structural design so flawed in terms of crash deformation and kinetic energy absorption and dissipation, the airbag is too little, too late. |
Are we suckers or what? What is it's Euro N-CAP rating? Has it even been tested yet? Talk about getting your moneys worth VW... The cost of making this antiquated cars must be next to nothing.
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VW is really making some great improvments. This is a great step, making what is a great car even greater. What is Renault going to fo now with their budget car.- I know liquidation |
WOW! A diver AIRBAG! Whatever will they think of next?!?! Volkswagen's engineers' ingenuity knows no bounds! What does an airbag help when the body was designed 30 years ago (not 25 as in the article) and it bends at the bottom, as well as where the A-pillar meets the roof and the engine is forced into the passenger compartment when you crash even at 60km/h? A sop to people's gullibility. At least they have announced that they will stop making it in 2010. Yay! Then they can bring in some other piece of overpriced rubbish that they sell for peanuts in other countries but that South Africans are expected to pay millions for (can anyone say SEAT?)... |
Shame. Now those sissies who always need a helping hand and always afraid of everything can finally sleep at night. Can also join first for women.... I hear they also now cater for 'men'. |
Just another CITI Golf |
When they gona bring out the Golf 2 citi? |
Even Rocky Balboa with his athritis weak bones admited its times up for "Rocky".VW should admit that the`ve overdone the Citi.Scrap this car now.Too may models of the same metal sheet.An airbag doesn`t justify safety improvements.Citi Golf just reminds me of Rocky.... |
Once you get all the additional features that come standard with the i10 1.2 HS the price for the i10 is cheeper and you still get the 5years/150 000km warranty, why do you think hyundai offers the strongest warranty on the market, is it Marketing or because they are THE ONLY ONES WHO BELEIVE IN THEIR PRODUCTS??????? |