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Audi Q5 here - first drive

2009-02-26 11:16

Vehicle Specs
Manufacturer Audi
Model Q5
Engine 2l, turbo (diesel/petrol) 3l V6 TDI, 3.2L V6
Power 125kW @ 4 200r/min, 155kW @ 6 000r/min, 176kW @ 4 400r/min, 199kW @ 6 500r/min
Torque 350Nm @ 1 750r/min, 350Nm @ 1 500r/min, 500Nm @ 1 500r/min, 330Nm @ 3 000r/min
Transmission Six-speed manual, seven-speed S tronic
Zero To Hundred 9.5-, 7.2-, 6.5-, 6.9 sec
Top Speed 204-, 222-, 225-, 234km/h
Fuel Tank 75l
Fuel Consumption 6.7-, 8.5-, 7.5-, 9.3l/100km
Boot Size 540l
ABS Yes

Author: Lance Branquinho

 

Has Audi’s position as the challenger brand in the premium segment (their postulation, not ours) been vindicated by the new Q5?

You have to feel for the Ingolstadt concern, launching its BMW X3 challenger at a time the SUV market – mimicking general vehicle sales – is rapidly contracting.

BMW’s X3 had been allowed an ample amount of time to gain traction in the market when it was most buoyant, yet Audi is confident its SUV fighter can achieve a sales figure of 80 units per month.

One can only assume most of the Q5’s appeal will be to Q7, X5 and ML buyers downsizing due to disposable income pressures, instead of first time Audi buyers engaging the brand with Q5 as a buy in point.


Q7 heritage is there in the overall shape, detailing and smaller proportions render a much more better looking package though. Range of alloy wheels are quite fetching, 17s rolling 235/65s (standard on the 2l models) are best for local conditions.

Right sized Q7?

Though vastly smaller – perhaps even more responsibly sized, some would say – the Q5’s styling cues come strongly from the Q7. Resolved into more compact proportions, the oversized grille, sloping coupe roofline and distinct rear renders an infinitely more harmonious shape.

Audi’s marketing department may take offence but Q5 has finally brought balance to the overzealous Ingolstadt SUV styling trend introduced by the Q7.

Even when not embellished by optional LED lights the front and rear light clusters frame the adjoining vertical and horizontal panel lines perfectly, especially around the rear, where the absence of the Q7’s huge under slung orange indicators is welcomed.

Ten available wheel options are available in sizes from 17 to 18-inches, fusing traditional and some startlingly avant-garde designs. They round off the Q5’s overall aesthetic by having appealing sculptures spinning in its wheelarches.


Cabin design is still class leading - embarrassing much more expensive cars. A4 platform means right-hand drive versions retain awfully angled and cramped footrest thanks to front diff mounted ahead of the clutch.

Overall dimensions are more substantial than X3 measuring up 4.63m in length, 1.88m in width and 1.65m tall. With a proportionally long wheelbase running 2.8m from axle centre point to axle centre point, passenger space has been optimised.

Cabin architecture and furnishings are typical Audi, which plainly means you seat yourself in the classiest, most ergonomically-efficient environment in class.

True to its German, lateral thinking engineering heritage, Q5’s rear passenger bench seat can be moved forward by 100mm.

It’s simply genius if you have young kids who don’t need adult legroom, enabling one to stow longer objects, or just simply more pure volume, in the capacious luggage bay with the seats up.

The standard roof-rail cross-overs are high quality and very easy to fit and remove - important considering the Q5's SUV role. When in place they are automatically factored in by the Q5's ESP, allowing a new set of dynamic parameters to guard the car's behaviour, cognisant of a higher centre of gravity due to roof-line fastened items.

Rural A4 Avant?

Mechanically the Q5 rides on Audi’s modular longitudinal platform – shared with A4 and A5 – which means the front differential nestles ahead of the clutch.

This configuration stretches wheelbase optimally for stability, whilst ensuring steering box location ahead of the front axle, applying forces more directly to the wheels.

It works a treat in the new A4 when combined with Audi’s superb drive select system, which enables one to toggle between comfort, auto and dynamic settings – tailoring steering, damping and throttle response in accordance to the aforementioned settings.

With the boon of rear-wheel drive bias quattro (apportioning 60% drive rearward up to a 80% critical threshold when demanded) the A4/A5 derived chassis copes admirably with the increased weight (Q5 averages 1.75t) and higher centre of gravity.

As expected from Audi, metallurgical fetishists with a thing for aluminium will be enamoured by the construction of the Q5. Suspension being no exception. It’s a premium arrangement on the front axle (five-link double-wishbones) and independent at the rear too, with a trapezoidal-link supported by an anti-roll bar.

Ground clearance is premium SUV class average at 200mm, wading depth 500mm (if you’re mad enough to put it to the test) and with a symmetrical approach and departure angles of 25 degrees you’ll get over most soft obstacles without leaving too much exterior trim in your wake. Off-road bias ESP and hill-decent control ensure a degree of control incline or decline surfaces with substandard traction.

Twin clutch shifting now in vogue

Drivetrains for the Q5 compromise an even compression ignition and petrol split over four derivatives.  Entry level is the 2.0 TDI, producing 125kW and 350Nm and is the sole manual shift gearbox in the range, driving through six ratios. Boost comes online quite seamlessly, and if you live in close range of a high quality diesel fuel retailer it’s a fine engine, just don’t go test drive the 2.0T FSI S tronic.

Matching its turbodiesel capacity sibling’s torque output, yet producing 30kW more power at 155kW, there is no performance comparison.

The seven-speed S tronic dual clutch gearbox is unwittingly quick and true in its shift regimen when engaged with the steering wheel mounted paddle shifters - albeit only when the shift selector has been palmed over to the left engaging ‘manual’ mode. Capable of 0-100km/h sprint times in the low sevens and average fuel consumption around 8.5l/100km it's undoubtedly the pick of the Q5 drivetrains.

If turbocharging reliability keeps you awake at night, traditional large capacity V6 petrol power is an option with the 3.2 S tronic, driving 199kW and 330Nm. Why – perhaps only for acoustics reasons – you’d choose it over the more frugal, and torquier 2.0T FSI is a decision devoid of apparent logic.

Headlining the engine range is 500Nm worth of 3.0 TDI V6. It has 176kW of power on tap,  Audi claims a 6.5 second 0-100km/h time, which considering the roll-on acceleration verve available, is hardly the point. Economy averages out to 7.5l/100km, though I suspect you’ll never see similar figures in real world driving conditions considering the boost addiction it tempts one with.

Potential Q5 buyers may lament the lack of a manual shifting 2.0T FSI, trust me though, you cannot possible shift gears with greater alacrity or accuracy than S tronic unless your name is Giniel de Villiers.

Dynamically certified

Audi showed off the Q5’s dynamic capabilities with a winding route which took in some of choice Swartland mountain passes and badly corrugated dirt roads east of Clanwilliam.

On road, with the drive select system engaged in dynamic mode, throttle and steering responses, though perhaps not R8-like, were still ace. Ride quality is better than X3.

Through the Piekeniers pass you have to take mind of the fact Q5 remains, in essence, an SUV with 200mm of ground clearance. The quattro drive – no doubt assisted greatly by the 17 wheels rolling on road biased rubber – ushers in high levels of grip and body roll is oddly absent.

On dirt roads the wheel does get awfully busy, yet it’s to be expected considering the road-biased overall vehicle set-up, limited suspension travel, tyre profile and severity of the dirt roads we traversed. Best to engage dynamic drive’s comfort setting off road (even on dirt roads), which heralds a less frantic driving and steering feedback experience.


Audi's optional drive select, especially when paired with the dynamic steering and electronic damper control, ensure versatile, and nearly vice-free, handling on tar or dirt-roads. We would prioritise this as an option over something live the 3D SatNav.

Buying down in size, not image

X3 rival? A4 Avant with attitude? Miniaturised Q7? Is the Q5 really of these things? Yes and no.

Bigger, with greater loadability (540l plays 480l) and an incomparably more stylish interior, Q5 eclipses the X3 in most areas – especially with excellent dual-clutch gearboxes across most of the range.

Audi interiors are of such a high standard across the range buying down doesn’t incur a feeling of being left short changed from the driving position. Following this logic Q7 owners tempted to trade down will be heartened to find a responsive SUV, with dimensions better suited to urban driving and much better aesthetics.

Audi’s A4 Allroad – to debut in Geneva next week - would be a great real world alternative SUV alternative - it’s unlikely to come to South Africa though.

Although pricing is shadowing X3, the Q5 isn’t cheap, but it hardly feels so either. The options list is testing though - in its length and pricing.

Contemporary styling and resolved dynamics should ensure Audi manages to shift its target of 80 units a month with consummate ease. Should be an apt achievement in its centenary year. 

Pricing:
2.0 TDI - R407 000
2.0 T FSI - R460 500
3.2 FSI - R515 000
3.0 TDI - R533 500













 
Andy
7/16/2009 9:51 PM
Just a pity Audi service is so bad...16 weeks delivery time turns out to be 21...could have bought a BM, Merc, Lexus even a Porsche from the floor. What's wrong?
Anonymous User
4/25/2009 10:41 AM
Just spent a weekend with one, and love it. Feels great on the road, X3 just feels to dinky. The performance is unreal for a car and engine this size. Trading my 3 series in for this on Monday!!! Sorry X3, I like the BMW brand but Audi have got it so right here....
Anonymous User
3/27/2009 10:09 AM
YAWN. Boring!!!!!
Anonymous User
3/26/2009 9:13 PM
My wife trade her X3 for a Q5 10 days ago and she said yesterday that she made a mistake, not same quality interior as BM and performance poor,let you think coming from a lady
Anonymous User
3/26/2009 7:06 PM
What do you mean by "pricy"? If you cannot afford it, it will be pricy. Still better than any BMW
Vee
3/18/2009 2:28 PM
I expected an auto 2l to compete with X3. It is huge though.
Hein Stipp
3/13/2009 3:56 PM
Looks to be a very good pakage, just a pity about the pricing. The best looking in it's class.Perfomance looks excelent on paper. Can't wait to read more about it.
Anonymous User
3/12/2009 7:28 AM
Pricy like all SA cars. Why why?? However very nice SUV.
Anonymous User
3/10/2009 1:27 PM
A lot of money for a car. What about re-sale Audi make really great vehicles, But is the resale good? That area has always been a bit of a problem, meaning the more you spend , The more you lose.
Billy
3/9/2009 4:19 PM
Nice car. What you guys think it will depreciate by in 12 months?
Bev Morgan
3/6/2009 10:33 PM
Love it! Aggressive outer styling. I'm driving my second Audi (after trying out the German competition) and am sold on the brand. The pricing structure needs a re-think though...
HR
3/6/2009 10:17 AM
HAHA @ Freelander driver. Remember, the Freelander costs almost a Million rand! - taking into account that you have to buy two of them - driving one while the other is in the workshop - this is a nice car, just wondering about off-road ability. Cheers
Anonymous User
3/2/2009 12:50 PM
All cars are overpriced in South Africa. The only way that the SA car industry will survive is if massive reductions in vehicle prices are made. And it's no good just offering 'special' finance rates and 0% deposit etc, etc, etc... cause that just puts people further into debt and deepens the entire economic crisis. If a bail out plan is agreed to by the government then the cost of this to the carmakers should be to enforce a price reduction.
Anonymous User
3/1/2009 9:04 PM
at Anon 2/27/2009 3:14 PM, Actually specs do make sense, Turbo 4's usually give more Torque (but less power) than NA 6's. If you want to look further into this then comaper the Torque fugures of say a 125i to a GTi as an example or the S3 to 130i
Marie Ferrari
3/1/2009 3:46 PM
X3 does not compete. It is old and ugly. I drove the XC 60 D5 Geartronic on Friday and came away very impressed. Will test the Q5 before I purchase though. Viva Volvo!!!!!!
kegrin
2/27/2009 10:07 PM
Anon @ 2:47pm just to remind you here is an excerpt taken from this article; "Mechanically the Q5 rides on Audi’s modular longitudinal platform – shared with A4 and A5 – which means the front differential nestles ahead of the clutch". This LMP chassis is not found on any VW Brand vehicle as yet, so no, it does not share the Tiguan chassis.
Snow
2/27/2009 3:28 PM
By the time you've specced this car with all the 'toys' you want, add on at least another R50k to the prices quoted here. I'll take the S 60 - a far superior car allround!
Anonymous User
2/27/2009 3:14 PM
Specs doesn't make sense. 3.2l V6, 199kw/330nm @ 3000rpm vs 2l T (Petrol) 155kw/350nm @ 1500rpm! Well worth looking into.
ABU
2/27/2009 3:02 PM
its a great car audi q5,i am buying one nxt month,the price is fair.
Anonymous User
2/27/2009 2:47 PM
I see some of you compare it to Touareg which is a bigger SUV and more car ,you should be comparing it to the Tiguan which shares the same chassis.
Anonymous User
2/27/2009 2:30 PM
The car is overpriced!!!!!!!! nice car thou
Anonymous User
2/27/2009 1:53 PM
one of the "biggest" cars for 2009. looks good, drives wel. 3.0 tdi, pick of the bunch
Mmahulo Mashabela
2/27/2009 1:45 PM
This is a nice car and it has a lot of many things coming as standard when compared to the competition. Speaking from better knowledge, this is not a 'wow' when compared to the Toureg, and this may result in conflict of interest as both VW and Audi are falling under the same Group (Volkswagen Group). It is actually cool to compare it with the old X3 (though not bad at all). However, the Bavarians know just how to tickle everyone's pink when they release new models. And, as a matter of fact, they always serve as a benchmark coz they release their models before their competitors. BMW is coming with a new standard of design in a few years...Just watch.
FL2 Driver
2/27/2009 7:51 AM
Still prefer the Freelander 2 over this. Excellent on road and off road performance, unlike the X5 as the article states.
mR. Douglas
2/27/2009 12:22 AM
Very nice indeed! Way better pricing than the VW Toureg. However, once you add all the features you need or want, you can buy a Nissan Patrol!! Such a pity.....definitely better option to the Q7, X5,X3 or Touregs.
REN
2/26/2009 7:56 PM
BOORING BOOORING BOOORING BOORING ALL THE AUDI'S LOOK THE SAME - NO IMAGINATION - CUT AND PASTE DESIGN-WONDER IF THE AUDI DESIGNERS CAN ID THE DIFFERENT MODELS
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 7:39 PM
Q5 WAS TESTED IN THE UK AGAINST XC60,X3,RX350,FREELANDER. Q5 CAME OUT TOP. IT SO QUITE JUST BSHIND AN S CLASS FOR A A HUSHED RIDE.
Shark
2/26/2009 5:01 PM
At Anon 2/26/2009 1:18 PM, you looking at the car incorrectly, the car was not meant for off roading, see it as a high riding 4wd station wagon and then you will appreciate it. Remember these cars are not meant for people who want to hit the dirt roads. people buy them as an alternative to your MPV/Station wagons as a family vehicle that has loads of space but high ride hight to handle the bumps, uneven ,broken or gravel roads of SA.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 4:26 PM
pricy like all cars in SA
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 4:22 PM
Would you take this thing through the desert? NO... So its just another mom's trolley....
Desire
2/26/2009 4:04 PM
Will have mine in black.Thank you
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 2:40 PM
Very nice, just a pitty that there is not alot of standard features. Taking delivery of my Volvo Xc60 in 6 days!
Morne
2/26/2009 2:35 PM
Audi skop deesdae BMW se gat allie pad. Behalwe BMW se M reeks performance modelle is die huidige bmw's regtig uiters vervelig in looks.
CRAIGJ
2/26/2009 2:33 PM
i`ve never been into the suv scene,but this is the first one to tempt me,great work from audi,again...any other audi fans should get the topcar magazine,nice tribute to 100 years of audi,also comparison test between Q5,X3,XC60 AND GLK.
jody
2/26/2009 2:18 PM
i saw one the other day (3.0TDI),it's almost as big as a Q7!!!!! it's huge, i wouldn't call it a downsize really as this thing is just as big.has a lot of presence though and very fashionable.the BMW is 5-6 years old and based on the old 3 series chassis,so the new one will be better-yet another bench mark. i think that AUDI as well as other manufacturers shoot themselves in the foot.if it were available in SA the A4 Allroad would be the worst choice between the two. FORRESTER-even the old one is still king in XT form
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:18 PM
Test driven on dirt roads only,where is the rest of the 4x4 capability,no match for a Subaru Forester that can actually handle rough stuff and has a higher ground clearance.Do not expect to see this at the next JIMS offroad track.It was the case last year,only a TOUREG and no BMW
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:16 PM
Mpho, Overpriced relative to what? X3? XC60? X5? Or just too expensive for you?
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:14 PM
@ Anon 11.30. Duh, all cars have taken a hit on resale value recently. Quoting stats on a sample size of 1, is stupid. Audis hold their value better than most other brands, check your facts.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:07 PM
To Anonymous 11:30 Audi isn'n the only manufacturer that don't want to trade in their own brand... I had a Merc SLK and wanted to trade it in for another Merc. Guess what, they didn't want to trade it, they recommend I rather advertise and sell it myself! Back to the Q5 - Very nice! I will swap one for my CLK!
Sweet P
2/26/2009 1:06 PM
Saw the Q5 at the Motor Show last year...Very impressive. Trying very hard to resist the temptation for an upgrade...but I still love my individual BMW M-series
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:05 PM
Only a BMW nut would choose an X3 over this. How many X3s is BMW planning on selling now?
MLP
2/26/2009 1:00 PM
Nice but a bit overpriced. Don't like Audi interiors, dashboard is dull and boring, why did they get rid of the lovley round air vents ? Overall, better than overrated Q7.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 1:00 PM
Im very surprised to see the 2L diesel coming in so much cheaper than the petrol. For me it is the pick of the bunch. Rather spend that 60k on extras or a speedboat to tow behind your new Q5. The Volvo does appeal to me a bit more though. But i could never drive a Volvo as a single guy.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 12:11 PM
Awesome Q5 ! Now to convince wife to buy a proper familie car, nice one Audi!!
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 12:01 PM
agree with Trevor about Audi interiors! Yes, it is good quality but so bland and all look the same.
Mpho R
2/26/2009 11:51 AM
Way overprized!! I''ll be suprised if they are able to better the 20 - 30 cars the Q7 sells per month.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 11:30 AM
I am an audi fan and drive one 2. Its an awesome car, but will never buy an Audi again. Their resale value is atrocious, considering that the current market is a second hand one and they cant buy back their own vehicles.
Trevor
2/26/2009 11:17 AM
The Q5 looks nice, If I could afford it I could have it. Well its great that the X3 is seen as a barometer, but its about 5 yrs old. And the X3 has a standalone design its not a downsized X5 as the Q5 looks like a downsized Q7. And i'm getting tired of all Audis having the same interior, it looks like they have run out of ideas. Nice car though.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 11:03 AM
Very good car, expect to see alot on the road. I like. ALOT
Adama
2/26/2009 10:21 AM
Looks wise it's okay. Interior styling is also okay. I'm not doubting the quality just don't like the looks of it. Especially hate that 1980's cressida style gear lever. If the Volvo XC60 had Audi, BM or Merc quality (build and engineering) it would be a no brainer, easily the best looking inside and out in this segment. And to all you guys bashing the X3, IT'S 6 YEARS OLD.
Marco
2/26/2009 10:21 AM
Well done Audi! As Anon @ 9:42 says, there seems to be something special about the Q5. It seems really nice and pricing is steep but I think it will do well. Fortunately it looks a lot better than the ugly and vulgar Q7. I'm actually considering taking a drive to an Audi dealer now!
sender
2/26/2009 9:59 AM
A decent looking SUV, nice. Interesting choice between this and my current favourite in the market at this level, the Volvo XC60.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 9:42 AM
XC60 is great value, and interior is better than the X3's, not quite as special as the Q5's. Two great new entrants to this niche lately in the XC60 and now the Q5. Dynamically I think the Q5 is the a bit better maybe, DSG boxes sound good.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 9:37 AM
Very nice, I dont think that the X3 comes close, my choice would be between this and the Volvo XC60. Think the costly options with Audi would push me towards the Volvo.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 9:32 AM
2l petrol makes more torque than the 2l diesel, and peaks at lower revs. If it was not for the big price diff between the two - oddly in favour of the diesel for value - it would be a no brainer. Petrol over diesel.
Anonymous User
2/26/2009 9:30 AM
Good car to be launching now, with many people trying to get out of oversized SUVs but not wanting to get out of SUVs as a whole.

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