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21/07/2008 11:12
AMG V8

AMG might be necessitated to return to forced induction in a bid to reconcile epic performance with emissions regulation.

Five years ago the supercharged 5.4-litre V8 which powered the E55 AMG moved the German four-door performance car parameters off the sanity scale – beyond the mythical 500 imperial horsepower marker.

Despite its huge performance, the supercharged 5.4-litre V8 has all but been replaced in the AMG range by a 6.2-litre V8 and 6-litre bi-turbo. The only ‘other’ AMG you can buy locally is the naturally aspirated 5.4-litre V8 powering the SLK AMG.

Bye-bye big, bad V8...

BMW and Audi loyalists have lambasted the behemoth 6.2-litre V8 as an engineering anarchism - an uncouth cubic capacity ode to American powertrain engineering.

Despite these comments the naturally aspirated V8 lump has provided a very linear performance driving experience with immense torque available at low revs and is comparatively less complicated than a forced induction engine. Logic would dictate it to be more reliable too.

From the 336kW C63 AMG to the 386kW CL63 AMG, the 6.2-litre V8 has proved highly flexible and massively powerful in all AMG applications. Unfortunately ever more stringent emission regulations are curtailing the lifespan of large capacity, naturally aspirated engines.

BMW will surely move to forced induction for the next generation M5 and Audi has all but admitted it’s new S4 and RS4 models will also feature ‘blown’ engines too, in the form of a highly tuned 3-litre V6 TFSI motor.

Now rumours from Europe have it AMG are set to revert back to forced induction too - complete with a smaller V8 engine architecture.

What are the AMG options?

AMG might decide to come full circle and employ the manic McLaren SLR 5.4-litre supercharged V8 - in detuned trim - for future AMG performance vehicles if current available supercharging options are tabled. Pragmatically though, the trick 5.4-litre engine is expensive and could hurt SLR residuals if it were to become a mainstream AMG powerplant.

Any possibility of supercharging the 6.2-litre has been curtailed by limited under bonnet packaging space and safety issues pertaining to pedestrian crash impact ratings. Transferring the bi-turbo 6-litre V12 is also unlikely considering packaging issues in C- and E-Class ranges.

A left field solution could be the introduction of a rumoured 5-litre twin-turbo V8, which would produce around 367kW and 900Nm in standard AMG trim. The 5-litre engine could also be available in a more exclusive version producing 514kW and 1200Nm to replace the current 6-litre V12 bi-turbo as the AMG powerplant leader.

The key issue pertaining to these rumoured outputs – especially the torque figures - would be the necessity for a new line of gearboxes as the new 7G Tronic automatic would not cope with engines as powerful as AMG is rumoured to be planning.

AMG could hardly expect customers to be content with the five-speed SLR or SL65 sourced gearboxes either – despite the latter being able to cope with a 1 000Nm torque number. An electrically controlled direct-drive gearbox will allegedly herald the solution…

Confronting future realities

Ultimately the issue facing AMG is trimming capacity down to ensure Co2 emissions and fuel economy is realigned to be within regulation target range, whilst still producing enough power to satisfy customer demand for extraordinarily high performance. “We’re almost at the top in terms of power now,” says Wolf Zimmerman, head of research and development at Affalterbach.

Within the gambit of this design and engineering conundrum, forced induction - with its ability to garner both high efficiency and power from limited capacity – is the technical solution of the moment.

If the radical Mercedes-Benz F700 concept car, with its direct injection, twin-turbocharged 1.8-litre DiesOtto engine is an indication of what Mercedes engine design is destined for, a 5-litre twin-turbo V8 engine option becomes the most plausible reality for future AMG products.





 
rnsaza
7/21/2008 8:07 PM
Ethanol HCCI is the future & it has a turbo on it.
Anonymous User
7/21/2008 4:04 PM
in the words of the great steven segal....has anyone seen richie??? and with that off the topic intro i sign off by saying hydrogen fuel cells in the next 10 years.
Anonymous User
7/21/2008 3:54 PM
i'll be surprised if anyone buys big or performance cars anymore...oil will last until 2050...so manufactures must have alternate cars ready and waiting..hydrogen cells possibly...in a near ideal world efficient public transport and human walking will do away with cars altogether...hope im here to see that happen
mo
7/21/2008 2:38 PM
Bm must just add more NM to their engines benz is coming big time iam not a benz fan but hey the, the Nm that benz produce it shows that it can last longer on the road with mantaining the same speed anything turbo does nos do for me
Anonymous User
7/21/2008 1:42 PM
BMW 3.0L I6 twinturbo is 3 going on 3 years old in production and 6 years since the beggining of development.. It will win Engine of the Year atleast 1 more time.. Can you imagine what twinturbo/energy capture engine/drivetrain BMW already are developing.. Audi and Merc are just gona release their twinturbo/FI engines and BMW will then move the goalposts with the next thing in engine tech.. Seems as if Audi and Merc are always playing catch up!
Anonymous User
7/21/2008 1:39 PM
(998) 911 is going compact direct-injection V8's for 911, 911S and GT3 models and twinturbo V8's for Turbo and GT2 so that ends your little theory right there D-MEISTER! Unfortunatley with the economy and world as it is, there will be no more NA engines in 10-15 years. I'm an avid BMW NA fan but I know that the NA era is gone a turbo's and other tech is teh way forward..
D-Meister
7/21/2008 1:10 PM
If the ICONIC 911 can still do it with a 6cylinder then why even bother with a heavy V8 I ask.
proudly sa
7/21/2008 12:44 PM
Thabo? u must driva a truck right?
random
7/21/2008 12:35 PM
I wonder where this leaves Honda, the last surviving manufacturer that exclusively produces high-revving normally aspirated engines. With the fall of BMW in the past few years to forced induction it signals the beginning of the end for N/A. It will be a sad day indeed when eventually even Honda are forced (pardon the pun) to follow suit. I'm hanging on to my S2000 and I advise other N/A performance car owners to do the same. These are the last examples of a dying breed.
imo
7/21/2008 11:56 AM
In other words if you drive an m3 or rs4 consider yourself very lucky
Thabo
7/21/2008 11:48 AM
Personally I'm a big fan of blown engines. They're lighter, so no nose-heaviness, more efficient and turbo lag (at least at the top of the motoring food chain) is a thing of the past. Will it be better than the BMW bi-turbo though?
zee
7/21/2008 11:33 AM
I am with 10:37 AM ! Revs uber alles! But revs will also probably be consigned to the history bin by emissions laws. We will all be driving 4 cyl, diesel plonkermobiles
Joe
7/21/2008 10:37 AM
Is this the end for naturally aspirated cars?? BMW, Audi and now Merc have all said they are introducing turbo/superchargers. Nothing on earth beats a high revving / high capacity, manual gearbox V8. If you have one hang on to it!!

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